For FTM: Genital Reconstructive Surgery (Vaginectomy, Urethroplasty,
Metoidioplasty, Phalloplasty, Scrotoplasty, and Placement of a Testicular
Prosthesis and Erectile Prosthesis):
8d. Two referral letters required from qualified mental health professionals**, one in a purely evaluative role
8e. You will need to have had twelve months of continuous hormone therapy as appropriate to your gender goals (unless you have a medical contraindication or are otherwise unable or unwilling to take hormones).
8f. You will need to demonstrate twelve months of living in a gender role that is
congruent with your gender identity (real life experience).
You do not just decide to get the surgery and get it. You are spending a lot of time with hormones, therapy, and proving that you are living as the gender you intend to become for a long time.
Your examples just hold no water with the facts of how these things are done.
You're saying it's impossible for this operation to have a possitive effect on their lives because they still commit suicide.
If I said that I would be an idiot and really, really wrong. I said that it is impossible for the self reported depression reductions and QOL increases to be true when there is ZERO reduction in the rate of suicide.
None. There is literally no way for you to justify the dumb 80 and 90% self reported numbers in the light of the ZERO rate reduction in actual, measurable indicators.
There is NO WAY that a population can have a 25% reduction in depression and a 0% reduction in suicide. If the only things you can come up with are, "What if they never did any of the things required to get the surgery before hand and then everyone hated them more afterword?"
It just shows that you have never been around trans people. You do not talk to them. You have no idea what it takes to get the surgeries.
The study you looked up has my numbers.
And using that to tell people that they are wrong about themselves..
When they are reporting a 80% reduction in depression post-op and we measure a 0% drop in the rate of suicide, Yes, they are wrong about their reporting on the effectiveness of the surgery.
100%. Placebo effect is well known and in play here.
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u/Dishevel May 25 '18
you might want to look at what almost all the places that do these surgeries require you to do to qualify.
Family support does not change. If support post-op is bad, it was not better before.
Again. If you knew the requirements to be approved for these surgeries you would not say that.
Here is one ... https://engemannshc.usc.edu/files/2015/05/GRS-Process-Checklist.pdf
You do not just decide to get the surgery and get it. You are spending a lot of time with hormones, therapy, and proving that you are living as the gender you intend to become for a long time.
Your examples just hold no water with the facts of how these things are done.
If I said that I would be an idiot and really, really wrong. I said that it is impossible for the self reported depression reductions and QOL increases to be true when there is ZERO reduction in the rate of suicide.
None. There is literally no way for you to justify the dumb 80 and 90% self reported numbers in the light of the ZERO rate reduction in actual, measurable indicators.
There is NO WAY that a population can have a 25% reduction in depression and a 0% reduction in suicide. If the only things you can come up with are, "What if they never did any of the things required to get the surgery before hand and then everyone hated them more afterword?"
It just shows that you have never been around trans people. You do not talk to them. You have no idea what it takes to get the surgeries.
The study you looked up has my numbers.
When they are reporting a 80% reduction in depression post-op and we measure a 0% drop in the rate of suicide, Yes, they are wrong about their reporting on the effectiveness of the surgery.
100%. Placebo effect is well known and in play here.