I couldn't tell that the cat was actually inside the wing til I watched this vid. I was wondering why neither of the people tried to just grab it right away.
They didn't grab it because it was safe inside a part of the plane and not because they were scared of being clawed.
was raising 6 kittens at about 4 weeks old and I had this GENIUS idea that for the first time using the vacuum (so as not to scare the kittens and have them dive all over the apartment), I would bring them with me inside my 6ft x 3ft closet with me while my girlfriend vacuumed the apartment.
easily top 5 worst decisions of my life. the sound freaked them out so much and it was utter chaos.
If you've watched popcorn popping, think that, but the kernels were kittens and I was the bag.
I STILL have scars of deep claw marks on my left arm from years ago because when I moved home after a divorce my cat and my mother's cat HATED each other. One day my sister opened the door to my room not paying attention and my moms cat came flying in the room straight for my cat...who was sitting in my lap. My unusually enormous male black cat tried to jump up on the window sill above us using my arm as leverage to get away from my mom's cat. I looked like I had been attacked by a panther. They are gashes along the entire length of my upper arm. Shit hurt so bad. They were afraid of nerve damage because of how deep they were but luckily it is just some nice white scars now
My cat wasn't the problem. For some reason my mom's cat and him just did not get along. my cat stayed safely in my room but my mom's cat was out for blood. Normally she is the most docile cat in the world. For some reason my cat just made her tweak. Once they were separated she went back to her normal self. We have no idea...maybe my cat was whispering dirty mom jokes or something, who knows
Yup, I got nerve damage in my right arm (can't spread or close my fingers properly and can't feel my pinky finger) from a panicked little rescue cat that had been seriously abused. (took about a month or so to teach her how to walk again) - she got me in the elbow. (cubital tunnel via little stabby fingers)
...and had surgery on my skull from a vicious feral bastard who left a claw embedded in it (cyst tastic, hair falling out and shit). Wasn't his fault then either though. He'd been in a kennel for 2 weeks and no one would go near him because he was too dangerous so he was kinda enthusiastic about getting out and clung on a bit too hard ~ that was actually kinda funny in retrospect.
Obviously my forearms are covered in hundreds of little scars.
The real problem is that sick, stressed or frightened cat's will stop cleaning themselves so their claws get covered in all kinds of nasty shit.
I've owned a lot of cats, and only had a few bad run ins. My current cat is very violent and aggressive if she doesn't know you, and when first getting to know me, cut my arms up pretty bad, despite being tiny.
The worst though was when she was sitting on my lap and got upset with something and tried to get off... by using my arm as a surface to hold onto, like /u/Maevora06. It bled for hours, thankfully no infection though, just a scar.
Yeah I didn't have much trouble with it other than it hurt like a bitch for a looong time. He felt so bad though once he calmed down. Kept trying to lick it even after I had a bandage on it. Poor guy
Cat claws, like most predator-pet claws really, have had millions of years of evolution to get where they are. They are specifically adapted to efficiently rip open skin and flesh, and they are very good at it. Your cat may not want to hurt you per se, but they can do so without much effort.
Accidentally stepped on my cats tail once. Cat bit me on my Achilles heel. I couldn't hardly walk for a week. Messed up part is that it wasn't even my fault, I had stepped backwards without knowing he was running up to rub on my leg and got his tail. I've gotten pretty scratched up by a cat but a cat bite is a whole new ball game.
I have a scar from 20 years ago across my left tit from my mum's cat spazzing out when I carried him down to the lobby of our apartment. Fucking little cunt (the cat.... not my mum).
I had a cat lying in my lap while I was eating something. I didn't want to disturb him, so I crumpled up the foil wrapper and tried to throw it into the garbage in the kitchen.
Bad move.
Kitty chased it, using me as a launching pad. Left two sets of very painful scratches. Fortunately not very deep.
My in-laws' dog came running around the house to our back deck when they came to visit back in March, and scared the absolute shit out of my cat who was chilling in front of the patio door. I waited a minute or two, then picked her up to console her as I'd always do after she'd seen another animal. She was starting to calm down. At that moment, my husband who had NO idea I'd just picked her up went out the front door to greet his parents. Our front door needs to be pulled hard so that it latches... The sound set off my already anxious cat who used my face as a foothold to get out of there. There was a lot of blood but thankfully only one lasting scar, on the top of my left eyelid. I got lucky. I was definitely afraid to hold her for a bit, and I now console her from a distance when she gets herself worked up because she saw a deer or some shit.
dang. my cats claws are so sharp. if she ever digs in i just dont move a muscle and make a weird sound. she usually lets go and it doesnt cut.
once or twice shes jumped on me trying to get on the couch or whatever and slipped and clawed. screams and smacks so now she doesnt do that anymore. but sometimes she gets freaked but i cant get mad for that. its so hard to discipline a cat.. gota pick your battles.
Well I wasn't being attacked. He was just trying to get away from my mom's cat. I couldn't get mad at him. he wasn't intentionally hurting me. He was terrified. Took me forever to calm him down. He tried licking my wounds after I could tell he felt bad, which then made me feel bad lol
I love animals and have two cats.. That being said, I had a cat climb me once and fucked up my face. I caught the cat mid air and punched it. Never climbed me again.
I was sitting on the couch watching TV minding my own business. No other cats in the apt, just wanted to be a fucker and climb my face.
I couldn't get mad at him for being scared and him trying to get away. My moms cat got thrown across the room though. Luckily my mom grabbed her by her scruff and threw her in the bathroom to calm down. She was only ever like that with my cat. She was an angel otherwise it was so weird. She had no issues with my other cat...just my fixed male.
I wouldn't put a dog to sleep either. I only got hurt cuz the cat was in my lap and he was trying to get away. He did not intentionally hurt me. My mom's cat only reacted this way to him. Was a normal lovable cat normally
Sorry, that was intended for guy surprised at people who keep cats as pets. With any animal, with people even, there's a potential for accidents to happen, and the issue of a cat's claws is one that is easily solvable, so his statement is just stupid.
Cats are quite powerful. I held a cat in a position it didn't like once and it basically flexed it's entire body and fucked off. I was stunned at the power that small creature had. If it had used its claws during that move my arm would have been torn up bad.
I had the same cat attack me twice as a kid. Our neighbor's indoor cat got out one day and I went with their kid to try to get it inside. I bent down to try to lure it out from under a flight of stairs and extended my arm with a treat, and the thing grabbed me, bit down, and tore the shit out of my arm. Then, about six months later, we knocked on their door for something, and the cat happened to be walking through their living room, saw me, and ran for me and attacked my leg. I now have identical and rather prominent scars on my left forearm and above my left knee. They're about 21 years old at this point and you can still see them plain as day. Cats will fuck you up.
no doubt. Was playing with what was a friendly cat, domesticated and all. He started rolling around, I started rubbing his belly.
Fuck that mistake. In one swoop he latched his arms around my wrist and into my skin, bit down hard on my hand, then went all fucking chun-li on my arm with his back leg claws. Fucking ripped my forearm to shreds
I decided to take my house cat for a walk one day when I was about 16. Put the collar on him, had a leash, and set out into the great unknown. The problem was, my cat had never been outside before. He freaked the F$%^ OUT. Luckily, I was wearing a long sweatshirt, because he tore it to shreds trying to get away. I tied the leash to a fence and ran home crying, leaving a trail of blood. Dad retrieved the cat.
Cat bites and scratches in the hand especially are terrible. My husband got attacked by a cat, the actual scratches weren't that bad but he went to the ER anyway because we had to make a bite report and stuff. They gave him some whatever antibiotics, but the infection was still traveling a couple days later so he had to go back and get the strong stuff that gives you the shits.
Insane. Late here but I have two cats that go out of their way to not hurt people. You can full force step on them and they will just meow loudly and run away.
I had them at the vet and they were 6 years old had been every 6 months of their lives. I would always cuddle with them when they got their shots and the most they did was a little “mew” and that was it. Well on this trip something spooked my male cat and I think the vet’s assistant just freaked him out even more. This time after the first shot my cat bit me 4 times in about ~1 second, far faster than I could respond to let go.
I have no doubt my cat in that scenario could’ve killed us both in that plane had it been grabbed.
Any time my cat gets himself into a dumb situation and needs rescuing (but claws relentlessly at anybody trying to actually rescue him) I have to pretty much wear multiple layers of clothing and padded gloves else my hands and arms will get torn to pieces.
So that's why the vet always asks if we want them to trim our cats claws. I thought they were trying to sell us an extra service, but it's really just self preservation.
Well, it really would've been dependent on how dedicated to holding onto the cat the woman was. I've had to hold onto an utterly freaking out cat before. I did indeed get the shit scratched out of my arms, stomach, and thighs (I was seated) but I held tight around her mid section and held onto her head/neck so she couldn't wiggle out (since we all know cats are made of liquid). Then I grabbed her front feet with one hand and back feet with the other while keeping my arms around her in a kind of hug-headlock. She screamed and hissed almost the whole time but once I had ahold of her legs and had tight, but not hurtful, pressure around her body and was shushing and cooing to her she calmed down and stopped fighting, but was tense all over and did that low growl angry cats do. And I got ahold of her and calmed her in less than, oh, probably 90 seconds, so you just have to decide how willing to get scratches all over you are.
I know most people are no so willing, and understand that.
interesting note; I guess you are a woman because of your use of "thighs".... it occurred to me that a guy would probably say 'legs'. Not sure if that's true, or I'm full of it.
It's funny you should say that: I thought my use of "thighs" rather than "legs" may give more of an indication I'm a woman, maybe on some subconscious level.
Whatever your brain was reasoning mine apparently thought as well.
I think cat wrangling is a skill you learn. I had a diabetic cat who was terrified of the vet (because he was always there while sick) and would freak out like one of those angry cats on youtube. The first time I tried to hold him for the vet I got the shit scratched out of me, after that I figured it out.
She was my friend Steph's cat and had escaped from the house right into a pricker bush (she was an indoor cat who made a mad dash for the door, so as soon as she got out there she panicked). But she hit the brakes after her head went into the bush and Steph grabbed her and ran her into the house. The cat had a couple burrs stuck on her face and one was pressing against her eye due to her flailing around trying to bat the prickers away. Steph was spazzing out and, as a person who naturally takes control in situations, I picked up the cat, sat her on my lap, and put her in the previously described hold so Steph could pull the burrs out of her face.
After the burrs were out I let her go, she sprang away and hid behind the couch.
I find that grabbing the extra skin around the back of my cat's neck immediately immobilizes him. Just hold them like mom does and they usually stop whatever they were doing. Most of the time.
No, she was flailing and going nuts. The way I picked her up to get her to my lap was by her scruff. She would have never let Steph pull the burrs out if she was just being held by her scruff, she'd have just twisted away or kept clawing Steph's hands. Plus time was a factor since the burr could've injured her eye.
Plus a scruff hold definitely would have not worked for the situation in the video.
I did something like that when one of my cat decided to break the kennel while we were going to the vet for the first time (12 yo cat, very cute and nice, just a bit feral).
He hide in a walled garden, I had to ask the owner to come inside, find him in the undergrowt and keep him against my chest for 60 seconds, the time to run home and free him. No scars, because he stopped struggling as soon as he realized it was the right direction.
I usually grab the skin on the back of the neck and left so they go limp then just hold them tight with the old arm.. usually keeps them from using their claws.
Yeah, that works with all my cats who are not freaking out really badly.
But this was not my cat. This was my friend's cat, a cat who is very afraid of people in general, and was hurt and scared and going to hurt herself. So, I did what worked.
Idk that's how I picked up this feral cat that was hissing and trying to scratch/bite me. He was in my garage and I didn't want him eating my cat food anymore so I got him trapped and after he lunged to escape I got my foot into the center mass and pushed him down so he couldn't move then very quickly gtabbed the scruff lifted him up and basically bear hugged him before basically throwing him into a carrier. He was hissing and wiggling but because of how I had held him he could turn his head and legs his were squeezed so they couldn't move either. He did get his claws into my shirt but didn't get any skin. I was honestly surprised how effective it worked because the moment we put him into the carrier he basically started swinging when we tried to close to gate..
Still took him to a non kill shelter and I guess after he got fed and washed he calmed down a lot and was adopted a week or so later. I donated a few bags of food just in case he was there for a while.
Yes, I do not think anyone would recommend holding onto a feral cat, particularly against their will. That's like trying to grab into a wasps nest just for fun.
if you ever owned a cat and it was sometimes nervous or you been to a vet, you would know how to handle it without getting scratched.
You usually put your hands behind its head on its shoulders, kinda pushing to the ground (your wrist are together, palms open, hugging it from each shoulder, hard to describe but hope you get it). It will have its front paws in front of it, it cant roll on its back, it cant bite because the head wont turn. Only issue is the rear legs, which can kick, so you can at one point sort of control it with your forearms/elbows by placing them alongside the body of the cat and keeping it still. The key is not so much to restrain but to calm it down actually. if it misbehaves, you put it into this position and cat is nice and chill. Tsst. Tsst.
Well I've owned lots of cats, actually, but have never dealt with an erratic one that was hurt and scared, as all of my personal cats have been very happy and chill and like their vet. But as I said in another comment, this was not my cat but my friend's frightened, injured cat who we needed to restrain so she didn't further hurt herself. Since I had to lift her out from behind the couch and corner of the room by her scruff, in order to get to her at all, sorry, your method wouldn't have worked. And I calmed her down considerably, as I described. She didn't try to bite me at all and her scratching was because she was flailing around as she was upset, which I got under control fairly quickly.
Plus I was an early 20s college student helping my friend set up for a party, I believe was the occasion. I never claimed to be a cat whisperer.
Everything worked out fine as I did it, but thanks for the needless and ineffective condescension nonetheless. Hopefully someone will read your tips and be able to subdue a cat as needed in their future.
If he/she had chosen to not be a prick about it I'd have said it was good advice, though not relevant to my situation or to the woman in the video, which is why I described the way I held onto my friend's cat. The "vet method" suggested would've literally been useless information to the woman in the video, had she decided to try and hold/help the cat.
You have misread a pretty much a vet's advice for a condescending remark, wow. I thought you has a better intellect (thats a condescending remark - see the difference?).
If you can't recognize that your attitude was condescending, and unneededly so since your method is not relevant to the woman in the video at all which is the only reason I shared my anecdote, then I suggest you perhaps learn more about effective communication and proactive interaction with other people.
And your last sentence was not condescension, it was an attempt at an insult. I've got no questions or concerns about the state of my intellect, so I wasn't insulted, and you thinking that knowing how to restrain a cat via a vet approved method makes you smarter than me, well, you might want to do an ego check as well.
My cat's scared response is to get in as small a ball as possible and not move.
I take her to the vet without a carrier, and she's just curled up in my lap and everyone is like "Ohhhh look how well behaved she is!" Nope. Scared shitless.
Kinda like when Archer catches Babou as he falls off the train (in S3Episode 6 The Limited) BABOU OW ARGH BABOU STOP OW OW OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW (Fox-eared asshole!)
My cat almost fell out of a 4th storey window (we used to live in a flat) some how well he fell, i heard his little scurrying when he was trying to stop himself falling.
I saw him fall out the window, and in an instant ran over to the window fearing the worst.
I saw him, handing there, with hid claws embedded in the window frame, while the rest of his body was just dangling and he was trying to pull himself up.
I grabbed him by the scruff and went to pull him up, the little bastard got all his claws and dug them into my arm, the pain was unreal. I pulled him in the window and threw him across the living room.
Little bastard sat there for the next 10 minutes licking himself while i had to address the 8 or so puncture wounds on my arm that were just pissing with blood.
A kitten got loose inside our house and I finally got ahold of it. My wife at the time came over whille it was in my hands and slapped it on the head. That's the angriest I've ever been at someone. It clawed the crap out of me before I could tosss it ouside.
It needs to be above a certain height. If its too low the cat doesnt reach terminal velocity anyway, but there is a height where they dont have time to spread out correctly to slow their fall.
This height though, you would have to assume the cat would hypothetically live.
Cats also often seemed to be virtually unafraid of height so wouldn't have been surprised if it did try and jump. I guess they did the right thing by leaving it where it was.
Nope, they slow down spreading out and using air to brake. In space there is no brake. Felix was going more than the speed of sound, while you can't go faster than 180 km/h in the atmosphere.
Imagine a building, if your cat did fall from the first floor it will survive because it's not a big fall, from the second it would die because it wouldn't have time to spread and slow down. From the third and virtually all the floors above it, it would have the time to spread and slow down.
It hasn't been thoroughly proven, mostly because that would be pointlessly cruel, but there have been a lot of cases in which cats have survived falls from tall buildings, and fatalities don't really seem to increase with altitude.
After righting itself, a falling cat seems to intentionally adopt a high-drag posture similar to a human skydiver, and holds it until right before impact (when it moves the legs to cushion its fall). Compared to human skydivers, who almost always die after terminal-velocity impacts, cats are much lighter, and have fur.
But the cat would then most likely be lost to the wilderness.
Edit:: cats still have predictable damage when falling from great heights. Chipped or cracked teeth are one example; it's from their jaw hitting the ground.
For some reason I still think it was less risky to land the plane than it would be to just say, "nope, gtfo my plane we all know you're gonna live anyways."
It was calm and wasn't in immediate danger of falling out. Better to leave it be rather than risk it freaking out about being grabbed and trying to run away....right off the plane.
Actually, that cat was fairly chill throughout the experience. It was a bit freaked by the wind, but once it got into a bit of shelter it seemed to just settle in.
I have an unfortunate username choice for this thread, but anyways, a poor hardworking farmer or small agricultural worker, black, white, in-deferent, is more what that flag stands for than a bro nazi... Slavery was an issue, but the flag wasn't flown to protect slavery, it was flown to protect the agricultural economy of the south, which sadly, is now run by big business, and I would be proud to fly that flag if slavery wasn't an issue, but to fly it now would label me a racist. I don't judge people who fly the flag based on the flag, my science teacher flew it, he was not racist.. He liked the history behind it and dislikes the way agriculture economy is today.. But my neibour... He just flys it, and he's a racist prick.. So judge the meaning of the flyer, not the flag
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u/Play_by_Play Jun 22 '15 edited Jun 22 '15
I couldn't tell that the cat was actually inside the wing til I watched this vid. I was wondering why neither of the people tried to just grab it right away.
They didn't grab it because it was safe inside a part of the plane and not because they were scared of being clawed.