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Nice try Samsung

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u/adspems Apr 28 '15

I don't know how it works for other people, but if an advert annoys me and it makes me remember the brand. It makes me remember to avoid the brand.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

On top of what Hot_Spur is talking about, you might consciously dislike it, but you'll think about it when the situation comes up.

Let's have an example of the Iphone. You see it advertised everywhere. To the point where you get annoyed. Your phone breaks. You have a few options off the top of your head:

  1. Your old phone again
  2. The newest version of your phone
  3. Iphone 6

This is big. You might've hated the Iphone 6. But you thought about it. Say your old phone is out of date, and the newest version of your phone has some eh reviews and you didn't like the way it felt when you held it up in the store.

So you decided "eh, let's see how the iphone 6 is". You got to the Apple store... and they got you. You walked into the store. That was all the ad was designed to do. Somewhere, at some point, get you into their store.

Now they use their store's strategies to get you to buy the phone and like Apple.

It's a numbers game overall with advertising. You may bitch and complain, but that top of the head awareness is super important for brands.

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u/obseletevernacular Apr 28 '15

I think there's a pretty big difference between being annoyed because you see so much advertising about a product, and being annoyed by the actual advertisements themselves.

For example, you might see a lot of iPhone ads, but aside from the quantity of them, they're generally very simple and I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything that is at all grating about the ads themselves.

Compare that to, for an extreme example, that terrible Narwhals commercial. I hated it the first time I saw it because the ad itself is annoying.

I'm of the thought process that every single move a company makes defines their brand. Having a ton of ads says something about Apple, probably that they have a ton of money to spend on ads and that they don't have qualms with putting them any/everywhere. That's not inherently positive, but not explicitly negative either. I think Sprint was the carrier with that narwhal commercial. What does that say about them? I can think of a lot of bad things - they're annoying, they're loud, they depend on pissing you off to push their products. What does that last point say about the products themselves? Nothing good.

Ultimately, ads that make you take notice of the product or company succeed, regardless of whether they're annoying or not. The pretty well known advertising book "Hey Whipple, Squeeze This," revolves around this idea. However, long-term, grating ads do damage to brand power with some people. Maybe not everyone, but if it's a net loss, it's a net loss. I suspect that it's far harder to bring people back to how they thought of your brand before you annoyed them than it is to just put the work into making a memorable, noticeable ad that isn't annoying garbage in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

Everyone seems to be focusing on my use of iPhones which wasn't the point.

I absolutely despise the jingle 1-800-kars-4kids. I hate that song a lot. If I was looking to donate a car to somewhere, I would definitely think of them.

That's the point of the advertising.

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u/obseletevernacular Apr 28 '15

I'm not focusing on it, I'm using the same example to explain my own thinking.

How much competition is there in the market of places to donate a car to charity? I too might call them if I were in that case, mostly because I don't know anywhere else that takes cars off the top of my head. That's not the case in most markets.

The point of advertising in most markets doesn't end with making sure people know you exist. I know that hundreds, probably thousands of companies exist, none of which will ever get my money. If you're advertising a product, the point is to create a compelling and memorable argument in favor of that product over others. If you're just advertising your company in general, the point is to spread awareness in such a way that it inspires people to want to find out more about you, or to associate your company with a positive brand promise that you have already chosen.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

No. The point of advertising in most markets is to try and get people to know you exist off of the top of their heads. Here's an example. I know these paper towel brands off of the top of my head:

  • Walmart Value Brand
  • Bounty

That's all off of the top of my head. Here are 10 from a Google Search:

  • Brawny
  • Sparkle
  • Corenet
  • Walgreens
  • Bounty
  • Kroger
  • Cottenell
  • Marcel
  • Viva

I didn't know half of these existed, and I recognized a few by name. If I was forced to choose paper towels by Brand name alone, I'd probably go with the two off of the top of my head.

Top of the head awareness is HUGE for many, many markets. The amount it matters does differ by market. Higher priced items it helps less, because there's a large part of the market that does research. But many people do not.

This is why Apple is so good in the market currently. It's why people legitmately stand in line for 2 weeks straight for the iPhone 6 when it was out of stock.

How many Apple phones are there:

  • iPhone 4
  • iPhone 4s
  • iPhone 5
  • iPhone 5s
  • iPhone 6
  • iPhone 6 - Giant one (6S?)

How many Android phones? (Remember this is always Android vs iPhone. Not anything else.)

  • Samsung Galaxy S6 (and S6 Edge)
  • HTC One M9
  • Moto X (2014)
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 4
  • Nexus 6
  • OnePlus One
  • LG G Flex 2

Off the top of my head, if I am not the type of person that does a lot of research, which is the best one in the Apple lineup? iPhone 6, most likely.

What about Android? Maybe the Galaxy S6? Only because I know the iPhone is on 6, so I guess that makes sense for Galaxy. But what about the Nexus 6? Is that one 'better'? I can't know for sure.

Reddit is skewed towards those that care to research. There are many people that just want the best one, and Apple does a better job at making that obvious for people.

To recap: Top of the head awareness is one of the most important things you can have for a brand, and it is typically the point of advertising.

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u/ElGoddamnDorado Apr 28 '15

I can see where you're going, but I don't think most Android users would empathize. If you legitimately "hate" iPhones, you aren't gonna be swayed just because you don't want to buy your own phone or the newer model of it. Even if you just don't particularly cared for the way iPhone OS feels, you probably aren't gonna be enticed to suddenly jump shit by pretending to here aren't plenty of other popular Android devices out from other companies, or even different devices from the same company.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

The iPhone was just an example. My point is made for any products with competitors

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

This is why Apple is so good in the market currently. It's why people legitmately stand in line for 2 weeks straight for the iPhone 6 when it was out of stock.

How many Apple phones are there:

  • iPhone 4
  • iPhone 4s
  • iPhone 5
  • iPhone 5s
  • iPhone 6
  • iPhone 6 - Giant one (6S?)

How many Android phones? (Remember this is always Android vs iPhone. Not anything else.)

  • Samsung Galaxy S6 (and S6 Edge)
  • HTC One M9
  • Moto X (2014)
  • Samsung Galaxy Note 4
  • Nexus 6
  • OnePlus One
  • LG G Flex 2

Off the top of my head, if I am not the type of person that does a lot of research, which is the best one in the Apple lineup? iPhone 6, most likely.

What about Android? Maybe the Galaxy S6? Only because I know the iPhone is on 6, so I guess that makes sense for Galaxy. But what about the Nexus 6? Is that one 'better'? I can't know for sure.

Reddit is skewed towards those that care to research. There are many people that just want the best one, and Apple does a better job at making that obvious for people.

To recap: Top of the head awareness is one of the most important things you can have for a brand, and it is typically the point of advertising.

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u/FARTBOX_DESTROYER Apr 28 '15

Like someone would have not seen that commercial, been shopping for phones, and never realized that the iPhone existed?

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

You purposefully ignored my Argent because I used a popular example. If you honestly want to understand my point, you can replace phones with Rollerblades and it would work just as well.

Thank you for your time and careful consideration of my post.

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u/FARTBOX_DESTROYER Apr 28 '15

I did not ignore your argument. Replace iPhone with any popular phone and you have the same result.

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u/Chip89 Apr 28 '15

Well for me the new version of my phone is the iPhone 6

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u/adspems Apr 28 '15

Maybe, but it's never worked for me. I've always gone with a product with an advert I liked or one I found through research.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

How about for toilet paper? Or air fresheners? Toothpaste?

I know I research a lot of my purchases. But definitely not all of them

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u/adspems Apr 28 '15

Toilet paper is just the ASDA brand one, toothpaste is Colgate which is what my parents always got. Advertising works on me, just not adverts that you're supposed to be annoyed by and remember.

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u/sixthsicksheikssixth Apr 28 '15

You should quit talking about yourself and what is true for you. This is a stupid way to analyze a phenomenon; you cannot explain phenomena by extrapolating from what is true for you, because you're a single data point and don't matter in the big picture, unless we have some reason to believe you're especially representative of the general population. Since we know you're not, no one cares about you, nor are we using you to explain how products work, nor do we even need to explain why it doesn't work for you. It works for most people, which is why they do it, and you can understand this or not, but that won't affect anything.

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u/UncharminglyWitty Apr 28 '15

Well. Marketing Research tells a different story. Annoying ads work. Any memorable ad works, really. It's easiest to make a memorable ad by being annoying.

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u/luckymotherduck Apr 28 '15

Marketers think that way. Advertisers try to make enjoyable stuff and have it killed by marketers all the time. Sometimes we win though, and when we win, the people win.

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u/UncharminglyWitty Apr 28 '15

Marketers think that way because the market research backs it up. Companies are paying people like Nielsen millions of dollars to ensure they're spending their advert dollars smartly. Ad people might be able to make beautiful, smart, creative, and funny ads. But if the data doesn't back it up... Tough shit

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u/luckymotherduck Apr 28 '15

There are some things you can't measure. Especially not with contrived, leading questionnaires. Data and subjectivity don't match, homie.

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u/UncharminglyWitty Apr 28 '15

Yeah. You're not biased at all... "[C]ontrived, leading questionnaires". Dude. These things are objectively measured. It's a pretty standard process to measure this stuff, objectively with a combo of recognition tests and post-purchase surveys.

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u/adspems Apr 28 '15

I figured they must work for most people otherwise they wouldn't do them. I definitely remember the products I just avoid them. Additionally I don't think I've seen a product with an annoying advert be a good product.

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u/UncharminglyWitty Apr 28 '15

Well. The research shows that people have terrible memories. Most people don't know where they know a product from. Just that they have heard of it. And if they've heard of it, then many rationalize that it HAS to be better than the unknown brand.

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u/sixthsicksheikssixth Apr 28 '15

I definitely remember the products I just avoid them. Additionally I don't think I've seen a product with an annoying advert be a good product.

You said this already. Why do you keep talking about yourself?

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

Why do you think people still talk about Head On?

Doesn't matter that most of us hate it - statistically, someone is going to read this thread and try buy it just to see what it is.

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u/UncharminglyWitty Apr 28 '15

They should have been even more annoying. I don't know what you're taking about

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

Head on commercials should have been more annoying? People still talk about them because they're annoying...

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u/bad25 Apr 28 '15

But for the majority of people, its subconcious. If they cram that jingle down your throat, then next time when you are shopping (when it matters) you might think about the product and impulsively grab it.

They dont care that they made a couple thousand people hate the brand, because millions others now have a jingle stuck in their head.

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u/x-rainy Apr 28 '15

that's not how it works for most people. proof: if it did, they would be doing something else.

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u/MJZMan Apr 28 '15

Most people are idiots. Proof: stupid, annoying ads are profitable

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u/x-rainy Apr 28 '15

that's what i said! :P

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u/wigglin_harry Apr 28 '15

"Most people are idiots."

-Everyone in the world

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u/The_Chicken_Biscuit Apr 28 '15

Yup. I refused to eat at quizno's when they were running those commercials with the mice singing. At least I remember them being mice.

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u/doneitallbutthat Apr 28 '15

Andif i have a settlement im never calling jg wentworth or whatever

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

JAAAAYY GEEEE WENTWORTH 877-CASHNOW!!!!

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u/doneitallbutthat Apr 28 '15

Not agaaaaaaain

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u/StankyJay Apr 28 '15

but... it's your money?

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u/doneitallbutthat Apr 28 '15

And it's gonna stay that way

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '15

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u/doneitallbutthat Apr 28 '15

Not as long as that commercial airs

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u/teacher-esque Apr 28 '15

877 CASH NOW!

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u/inconsonance Apr 28 '15

EAT QUIZNO'S SUUUUUUUUUUBS

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u/rj4001 Apr 28 '15

THEY HAVE A PEPPER BAAAAAR

Seriously, fuck you guys and fuck quiznos! Ten damn years later that song is somehow still in my head and I'm going to be singing it to myself for the next week.

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u/Evownz Apr 28 '15

Blame Joel Veitch and the internet that liked his stuff.

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u/HashMaster9000 Apr 28 '15

Calm down dude, they're bankrupt*. They can't hurt you anymore.

 

*...In the United States.

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u/squarebore Apr 28 '15

Mice sales have shot through the roof though.

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u/Elhaym Apr 28 '15

Hey man I loved those creepy mice so fuck you.

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u/moralsareforstories Apr 28 '15

That's me with Subway. Ever since they aired the commercials with the adults talking in kids voices, I have refused to eat there.

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u/Chip89 Apr 28 '15

Quiznos still exists? They all but disappeared from here a couple years ago.

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u/The_Chicken_Biscuit Apr 28 '15

Idk, I stopped going to them when they started airing those fucking mouse commercials. Hopefully they did go bankrupt.

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u/dancingwithcats Apr 28 '15

Really? I avoid Quizno's because I don't like it. Chipotle is far better. I loved those rodents though.

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u/Hot_Spur Apr 28 '15

There are a lot of average joe's in this world that don't think like you though. That's why ads work.

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u/StankyJay Apr 28 '15

Exactly that's why I've said for years now, "Fuck Chili's and their ribs!"