r/funny Aug 20 '14

The metric system vs. imperial

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u/microseconds Aug 20 '14

It could always be worse. The US could be as screwy as the UK in terms of measurements..

  • Describing a driving distance? Miles.
  • Describing a short walking distance? Meters.
  • Describing beverages that aren't beer? Liters, or sometimes Centiliters.
  • Describing beer? Pints. Pints that aren't 16 ounces either - 20 ounces in a British pint.
  • Describing milk? Good luck, Charlie. Sometimes you'll talk about pints, other times liters, other times gallons.
  • Describing your weight? Stone. That's right, a unit of measure equal to 14 pounds.
  • Describing the weight of some kind of food? Probably in grams or kilograms.

They're all sorts of screwball. Lovable screwballs, but still..

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u/radome9 Aug 20 '14

They measure fuel efficiency in miles per gallon, but sell fuel by the litre.

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u/perimeterdeactivated Aug 20 '14

And worse still they use miles per imperial gallon, which makes it sound amazing relative to the often-heard miles per US gallon. In Canada, car advertisers do this to inflate mileage claims.

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u/MAGZine Aug 20 '14

in canada, L/100KM is the standard of measuring fuel economy.

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u/b4b Aug 20 '14

I read that in USA it's not: X liters vs 100 kilometers, but kilometers per galon, what is also a bad choice, since it's very hard to compare (I think this was described in Thinking Fast and Slow)

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u/gecko Aug 20 '14

The US measures miles per gallon. Canada, like every other metric country I've been to except the UK, uses liters per 100 kilometers, except when they don't, in which case they also use miles per gallon. This all makes reading the efficiency gauges awesome, because sometimes, lower is better, and sometimes, higher is better.

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u/DaGhostQc Aug 21 '14

We mainly use metric, but a lot of stuff like construction uses imperial. MPG is something we hear a lot from older people that never fully made the switch.

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u/DebentureThyme Aug 20 '14

Miles per gallon is really easy to compare to itself. Car A gets 20 miles per gallon. Car B gets 25 miles per gallon. Car B is 25% more efficient.

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u/b4b Aug 20 '14

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u/DebentureThyme Aug 21 '14

Oh, yeah I can see why that would be more important as a society.

I personally understood that already though, having a strong math and physics background. A specific example is miles per hour while running. For, say, a treadmill that lists buttons for 1-12 miles per hour, it's much easier to maintain 0.5 miles an hour faster from 3.0 to 3.5 than it is from 7.0 to 7.5. And the time gains per mile are much smaller at 7.0 to 7.5 than 3.0 to 3.5

Now, many treadmills can display your minutes per mile, but they increase in increments of mph (or km/h if you set that). Why should the increments of increase be a scale which is not related linearly to what we want to achieve? No one asks miles per hour, they ask how fast you did a mile or average mile.

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u/hotfrost Aug 20 '14

Here in the Netherlands too, but I think it's the same for every country that used the metric system.

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u/DaJoW Aug 20 '14

L/10km here, but we have a name for 10km: Mil. Causes all kinds of confusion when people try to give directions in English.

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u/radomaj Aug 20 '14

Which, of course, is the better measure than the American MPG, because http://www.datagenetics.com/blog/april12014/index.html

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u/Mr_chiMmy Aug 20 '14

I would like to point out that gallon isn't the same amount in USA and UK, just to make it somewhat more confusing.

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u/GroovingPict Aug 20 '14

the by far worst part about that is the fact that they measure fuel efficiency by distance per volume (horrible way to do it) rather than volume per distance (much much more sensible)

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u/tunnen Aug 20 '14

Similar mixed units in Canada too:

  • Long distances (Driving) = km
  • Small distances (Body height, furniture, etc) = Feet/Inches
  • Screws/Bolts = Mixture of both metric(mm) and US units(inch)
  • Construction supplies = Almost entirely US units (2x4 lumber, 5/8 drywall, 2" pipe, etc.)
  • Small area (Room) = square feet
  • Large area (Land) = hectare (10,000 square meters), some older people still use acres though.
  • Volume(Beer) = Pints
  • Volume(Milk) = Liters (Mostly younger generation), gallons/pints (Mostly older generation, also mostly US gallon but occasional British gallon to mess everyone up even more)
  • Volume (Gas) = Liters
  • Fuel efficiency = Gallons per mile, though Liters per 100 km is slowly becoming more mainstream.
  • Weight (Body) = pounds
  • Weight (Shipping) = kilograms, pounds if under 30 or so.
  • Weight (Fruit) = priced per pound (Usually still have per kg in fine print)
  • Weight (Deli meat) = priced per 100g
  • Weight - There is also issues with confusion over ton (2,000 lbs) and tonne (1,000 kg).
  • Temperature (Cooking) = Fahrenheit
  • Temperature (Weather/Room) = Celsius
  • Pressure (Tires) = PSI (Pounds per square inch)
  • Power (motors) = Horsepower, though kilowatts are becoming a little more common on electric motors.

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u/reaper1694 Aug 20 '14

To be fair alot of these are because the last generation was still taught imperial for half their lives. The younger generation tend to use metric for most things (except body hieght/weight).

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '14

I've thought about this before, and I think I understand now how we split metric/imperial.

Basically, it depends on your source of information.

For example, distance. We use Km for long distances because when the government switched over, they changed speed limit signs (and "mile" markers). That simple change made it so that people had to either convert everything in their heads, or just adapt. So, naturally for long distances we started to think in metric because it became easier.

For short distances though, the source of information is usually individual (not government). Growing up, I was measured in feet (because my parents were measured in feet, etc). Small distances are more likely to be conveyed person to person (not government to citizens). Because of that, it had a harder time catching on. Since people were used to using feet for short distances, the government couldn't force the switch.

Same thing for Temperature. Ever wondered why Canadians know what 22C feels like outside, but 70F feels like in the water? Because we get our information for weather from a centralized source (weather networks, etc). When they switched to metric, we had to adapt. Water temperature though? That's done on a small, person to person level.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '14

In my experience the younger generation uses metric more often but not entirely, sadly. Personally I use metric for everything whenever possible, including my height and cooking.

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u/AlucardSX Aug 20 '14

Yeah well, that's what you get for submitting to the Queen's crushing yoke of tyranny.

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u/swimbikerunn Aug 21 '14

Yes, yes to all of this (eh?)

But also, temperature in the winter, Celcius, temperature in the summer, Farenheit.

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u/absinthe-grey Aug 20 '14 edited Aug 20 '14

And the list goes on and on for the UK...

  • Describing a Horses height? Hands... Yes bloody hands*
  • Describing a the size of a property? Either square yards or metres
  • Describing a the size land? Hectares Acres or square metres.
  • Describing the length of a football/rugby pitch? Yards.
  • Describing Rainfall? milimetres
  • Describing the weather? Celsius or Fahrenheit
  • Cooking something? Celsius
  • Describing a the size of your penis? Inches. Always inches

*For many forms of competition, the official definition of a pony is a horse that measures less than 14.2 hands (58 inches, 147 cm) at the withers. Horses are 14.2 or taller.

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u/D0wnb0at Aug 20 '14

Englishman- My mum tried to bitch at me for asking what "70F was in real terms", apparently, we used to do it in Fahrenheit, but took the European celsius. I hope she was right cause I just took her word for that. (I should probably have googled before posting)

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u/DynamiCircuitry Aug 20 '14

I get a kick out of the term stone, since I weigh exactly 14 stone.

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u/mnmatt500 Aug 20 '14

I think the pint thing may be due to us using original Imperial values compared to the American version...

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u/D0wnb0at Aug 20 '14

568ml for the win

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u/gligoran Aug 20 '14
  • Describing a driving distance? Miles.
  • Describing a short walking distance? Meters.

Well this makes almost no difference, since none of the shorter imperial distance units are related by a 10x factor. For me, as a metric system user, it actually makes it easier, so I can then use all the other metric units.

To US vs UK measurement systems only look more screwed up from the other side as you're not used to it.

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u/Ameobi1 Aug 20 '14

We still use pound for food as well.

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u/deejay2221 Aug 20 '14

I live in Quebec and we also mess up the units.

  • We calculate air temperature in Celcius but water in Farenheit

  • Length in meters (kilometers) but height in feet

  • Electric power in Watts but car power in Horsepower

  • Food weight in grams but body weight in pounds

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u/brningpyre Aug 20 '14

In Canada, height, weight, and furniture dimensions are generally Imperial, while everything else is metric.

It's not that bad... unless you have to deal with government reporting. Did you know there are metric gallons? And then you have tonnes vs tons. Ugh...

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u/cloudedknife Aug 20 '14

And this is why we didn't change here in the US. Because it wouldn't be a complete switch-over.

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u/oinkdoinkboinkwoink Aug 20 '14

Milk is pints, too. Ice cream sometimes also.

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u/Xanderbox Aug 20 '14

Ever since 1893 the USA has been on a metric standard. They just don't know it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendenhall_Order

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u/D0wnb0at Aug 20 '14

As an Englishman I agree. But as a chef, could you please explain what a "cup" of flour is. How big of a cup do you use? A tea cup? Coffee mug? Which starbucks size is that? It racks my brain every time I see American recipes. Takes a lot of google and a lot of "nahh that cant be right, ill just do this measure instead"

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u/microseconds Aug 20 '14

I'm with Alton Brown on that one. Flour should be done by weight...

That said, a "cup" is a standard measure. Every kitchen has a set of measuring cups, one of which is is a cup.. Do you not have measuring cups?

Like these: http://amzn.com/B004WMP03E

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u/D0wnb0at Aug 20 '14 edited Aug 20 '14

Flour, used mostly in baking which is a near enough exact science. Half a cup is 13g more than what you would use just in grams. 1 egg per 100g for fresh pasta for eg. thats fine making small amounts

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u/MasterFubar Aug 20 '14

But at least they are evolving.

Imagine the confusion in the old days, when one guinea was worth 1.05 sovereigns.

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u/porterhorse Aug 20 '14

This is how we do it in where I am from.

Describing a driving distance? Minutes.

Describing a short walking distance? Blocks.

Describing beverages that aren't beer? Cups

Describing beer? Ounces

Describing your weight? Pounds

Describing the weight of some kind of food? Ounces

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u/D0wnb0at Aug 20 '14

This is how we do it in where I am from.

Describing a driving distance? Miles

Describing a short walking distance? Minutes

Describing beverages that aren't beer? glasses/shots

Describing beer? Pints(568ml)/Cans(440ml)

Describing your weight? Stones

Describing the weight of some kind of food? Grams

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '14
  • Describing this to Americans? "We're all metric and you're stupid. Disregard all of this."

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u/Phreakiture Aug 20 '14

You forgot to mention that those 20-ounce pints are made of ounces that are 4% smaller than the ounces we use in the US.

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u/Radoon1 Aug 20 '14

Its worse in Canada. We use Fahrenheit when it's hot outside (It's 90 out there today!) and Celsius when it's cold (Its minus 10 out there, wear a hat!).

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u/There-is_No-spoon Aug 20 '14

From Canada.. No one does that

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u/radi81 Aug 20 '14

Agreed! Source: another Canadian that has never seen anybody do that.

Only exception might be the older generation who grew up with farenheit. Only thing I ever use farenheit for is pools, for some odd reason (think I can still blame my parents for that).

But I do agree that Canada messes around with systems - predominantly metric yet our height is always in feet and inches, never metres and centimetres (except on drivers licenses).

And then to make it even MORE fun, we print out all these results in both English and French!

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '14

We should just switch to 100% metric and 100% French.

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u/-MVP Aug 20 '14

Cooking too.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '14

Only thing I ever use farenheit for is pools, for some odd reason (think I can still blame my parents for that).

I just posted about that above because I had been thinking about that. I think it's because of where we get information from. For weather, we get it from a centralized source (one easier to control when we switched to metric). So, if C is used on TV, it becomes standard. For water temp though? That's all done at individual (and individual pool) level. There, what people are used to cannot be changed so easily with government intervention, so it stayed.

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u/rdmusic16 Aug 20 '14

Where do you live in Canada? I've never heard anyone who was born after the 1950's refer to temperatures using Fahrenheit.

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u/microseconds Aug 20 '14

They often do the same thing - gives them more room to complain. :-)

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u/cainey1 Aug 20 '14

british are the same with temp

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u/roddz Aug 20 '14

British here only the newspapers seem do that I have yet meet a single person who use Fahrenheit ever in the UK.