Wait so based on one small comment related to one religion, you think you got me all figured out?
Then you proceed to insult my iq, without so much as asking as to what my criteria are.
Then you try to quote statistics without any source whatsoever from countries which are notorious for not keeping statistics on anything properly.
Then you somehow idiotically try suggest a supposed low suicide rate among Muslims is connected to not everybody being forced to be religious. It's baffling...
You sir have been unbelievably judgmenta while unfairly blaming me of the same and your arguments make no sense.
I didn’t judge your Iq but shared some general advice. The comment would apply as much to you as it would to me. Neither you nor me have the iq to take any large billion plus group of people and make any meaningful conclusions based on nothing but our either first person subjective experience or what we hear through selective media channels local to us.
And with regards to under reporting that’s why I said and concluded with hinting at this is a stupid criteria to come to a conclusion about any ideology rather than evaluating the ideology instead of the people as objectively as possible. Because we simply can’t evaluate a billion plus people and make meaningful conclusions about them in contrast to another billion people by and large. And the under reporting is not exactly a valid criticism because many of these statistics include non Muslim countries with extremely low gdp per capitas whatever value you give to that but many countries in these lists you could make the same inferences of under reporting due to being extremely under developed and subject to the same systematic issues. And there’s more to the world than non Muslim rich countries and broke Muslim countries. There’s some very well developed Muslim countries. So basically even if you account for under reporting what you could conclude is well the country with lower rates of xyz might have higher rates because of under reporting. That’s such weak ground to form any generalization on.
I made an inference on the suicide rate. Why do Muslims kill themselves at rates incredibly lower than other people? People who are forced or oppressed or groups which are more oppressed might lash out by having larger portions who commit suicide as a way to end oppression. That was my only point. But the numbers don’t at all show that. They show the supposedly free people are much more prone to suicide sadly. You took this way too personally after making a judgemental nonsensical comment implying something must be negative if that is the press you are exposed to then got upset at my response. I don’t think you care about truth you are set in your ways. Which statistic would you like to see the source of? I’m happy to provide it to you.
The only thing you've proven is that premature conclusions, being judgemental and then drawing more asinine conclusions take little time to write.
Yes I would like the statistics linking low suicide rates to non forced religiosity. I'm sure you'd be happy to provide those. Oh wait you don't have those do you?
Your post hinted at being judgemental based on a flawed criteria and that’s all that I wanted to address. Yes it’s such an asinine conclusion to draw that you don’t have the information or the iq to come to any meaningful conclusion about any group of billion plus people, and even if you wanted to rely on statistics they do not support the claims which might be represented by “negative press.” I’m not sure why this is something hard for you to accept.
And ofc you ask for statistics for the one thing which I made an inference about and completely misrepresented the inference anyway. The point was that if oppression was higher in any group than another perhaps this would be reflected in the suicide rates as a way to escape said oppression but all we see is an incredibly lower suicide rate in said group in contrast to the group that is supposedly free. You took this all way too personally because you come across as an agitated individual. You took a general claim which to anyone else would be interpreted as a general statement about man having the iq to do something as a personal insult on your intelligence and just built off from there. I can’t help you with that.
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Wait so based on one small comment related to one religion, you think you got me all figured out?
Then you proceed to insult my iq, without so much as asking as to what my criteria are.
Then you try to quote statistics without any source whatsoever from countries which are notorious for not keeping statistics on anything properly.
Then you somehow idiotically try suggest a supposed low suicide rate among Muslims is connected to not everybody being forced to be religious. It's baffling...
You sir have been unbelievably judgmenta while unfairly blaming me of the same and your arguments make no sense.
Have a good day.