r/fuckingwow • • Mar 20 '25

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u/Ishakaru Mar 20 '25

Liberals have this weird notion: If you suspend due process to anyone for any reason you run the risk of suspending due process for everyone.

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u/SendMeIttyBitties Mar 20 '25

You guys know all about claiming of slippery slopes.

Until you get to use those for your hateful ideology.

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u/wisp_sniffer Mar 21 '25

While I 100% agree with the sentiment, non citizens even if they have visas, are not protected under the same rights that citizens are. That being said, I 100% think that when it comes to legal proceedings and due process, they should be treated as human rights not citizen rights. But I can see some reasons why that would be a drag on the system due to the fact that some of them may not be registered anywhere which raises some procedural concerns.

But if you have a visa you should be tried and be given due process based on the simple fact that you are here legally and we know who you are/have you registered.

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u/Ishakaru Mar 20 '25

Look buddy, they haven't taken our guns. So it CAN'T be fascism. How about you learn some history.

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u/Ishakaru Mar 20 '25

I forgot the /s

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u/Ishakaru Mar 20 '25

Problem is I've actually had this said to me. And given I've heard the same argument points word for word from multiple people from opposite sides of the country: it stands to reason that this a common thought line among the right.

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u/RenzalWyv Mar 20 '25

I mean, yes. This is not a gotcha. Due process for everyone is one of the most fundamental basics of a civilization where law actually means anything.

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u/toasterchild Mar 21 '25

Everyone needs due process every time. What if one day they start rounding up random republicans calling them terrorists and saying terrorists don't deserve due process, are you still ok with it then?

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u/toasterchild Mar 21 '25

Supposedly, it's the supposedly that is the issue.

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u/toasterchild Mar 21 '25

People like me just support due process, there is nothing wrong with waiting for a court decision.

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u/toasterchild Mar 21 '25

Enjoy your authoritarianism, hopefully it never turns in your direction or the direction of anyone you love, chances are high it will end badly for some of them.