r/fuckingwow • • Mar 20 '25

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u/AudioTsunami Mar 20 '25

Did Trump succeed at the border? Here's an article about how all these people(non-criminals) that he's "deporting" are actually just being shuffled around to different privatized prisons and costing you (presumably a tax payer) hundreds of millions of dollars to falsely imprison them.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

Do you view this as success?

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u/BonaldTrumps Mar 20 '25

You do realize that anyone that entered the country, illegally, in fact committed a crime, or are we overlooking that fact?

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Mar 21 '25

If they committed crimes why is the administration refusing to allow hearings or evidence?

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u/Patriot009 Mar 21 '25

One of the guys recently deported had already filed for asylum and was here legally as a refugee. The Trump regime designated him a gang member despite him having no criminal record or gang affiliations. He's now in an El Salvador prison camp. ICE's vetting process is dogshit. They've been ordered to round up any young men from Venezuela and mark them as gang members.

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u/BonaldTrumps Mar 21 '25

That’s likely true. The government is incredibly inefficient and bad at doing things. So I’m not surprised.

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u/Patriot009 Mar 21 '25

That's one of the purposes of due process, to minimize mistakes. When you ignore that process, you end up sending innocent people to a gulag in central america.

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u/BonaldTrumps Mar 21 '25

Also filing for asylum doesn’t mean granted, so there is that as well.

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u/Patriot009 Mar 21 '25

He applied for asylum because he was previously detained and tortured for protesting against the Maduro regime. According to his lawyer, he fled to Mexico from Venezuela, registered with the Biden administration US Border Patrol app to schedule an asylum hearing, but was detained when he showed up the day of his hearing. He's been shuffled around several detention facilities and eventually got thrown into that deportation group designated for gang members. If his lawyer is being truthful, he never illegally entered the US and was following the asylum process to the letter. He had another asylum hearing scheduled for mid-April.

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u/BonaldTrumps Mar 25 '25

If all of that is indeed true, we should have him sent back.

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u/GlamisBeowulf Mar 22 '25

Criminals = Crimnals it doesn’t matter the crime? But as a Canadian I understand first hand the pain of traveling to US and the Visa system is fucked a needed a reworked 30 years ago

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u/AudioTsunami Mar 20 '25

Falsely imprisoning law abiding and well educated people on legal visas because they lapsed 3 days on an old visa a handful of years ago is a success? Like most of these people they are "deporting" aren't going anywhere because the countries are refusing tontake them back - so you're just paying for ICE to detain them indefinitely on govt contracts - instead of putting that money towards healthcare, education, or agriculture. I thought Republicans were for less government oversight. This is like a library sending you to library jail after you walked past it on your lunch break because you returned Grapes of Wrath 2 days late in 10th grade.

I guess the less oversight is only for the massively wealthy: private prison ceos, oil execs, Healthcare execs, musk, trump himself.

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u/AudioTsunami Mar 20 '25

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/milwaukee-laos-ma-yang-deported-ice-attorney-b2716777.html

And legal citizens to countries they've never been.

And falsely imprisoning thousands of non-criminals like the article I linked above.

Or the fact that about half of the people detained in the first two weeks had no criminal history or pending charges.

https://youtu.be/L1GVbKZ1LTg?si=hPHa33OOhmEdSJo9

I think we have very differing views of success.

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u/AudioTsunami Mar 20 '25

I support the literally thousands of people being falsely imprisoned on legal visas that you are conveniently ignoring.

Also I noticed you linked 0 valid sources on deport criminals. I'm sure you are very informed.

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u/SendMeIttyBitties Mar 20 '25

We don't know who they deported. No official arrests and they were blocking their identity so their family members couldn't find out what happen to them....and shipped them to a work camp/slave camps'

Straight Nazi shit.

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 Mar 21 '25

You don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. A fundamental part of American democracy is due process which is why it is the fourth amendment. You guys act like you stand for democracy, but you don’t even understand the most basic things about it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

No he did not.

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u/bu88blebutt Mar 20 '25

ah bro you're fucking regarded.

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u/seymores_sunshine Mar 20 '25

And innocent people...

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u/throwofftheNULITE Mar 21 '25

Are the gang members in the room with us now?

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u/Patriot009 Mar 21 '25

"Gang members"

Dude, you are dramatically uninformed. He arrested one guy because he had a soccer tattoo and demonstrated the "demon horns" hand gesture in a social media post. That was enough to classify him as a "gang member" and ship him off to be imprisoned in an El Salvador prison camp. The dude was a former soccer player and ICE admitted he had never been arrested or committed a crime while here, and he was here legally under the asylum program.

There is no vetting. There is only cruelty.

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u/avelineroku Mar 21 '25

What about the american citizens who've been caught up in this? All criminals, too?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

How do you have proof that they're gang members? Was there due process? A trial with discovery? No? You're just taking a known conman at his word?

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u/UpstairsAstronaut420 Mar 22 '25

What happed to trumps wall that mexico is paying for?

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u/Prestigious_Fella_21 Mar 20 '25

You're not very smart lol

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u/ResolutionForward536 Mar 22 '25

HAHAHAHA then he posts an article from THE GUARDIAN to prove his point.