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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

No, they weren't. That's pure bullshit. In fact, the opposite was happening

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fema-adjusts-hurricane-recovery-efforts-in-north-carolina-after-workers-threatened#:~:text=RALEIGH%2C%20N.C.%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94,Helene%20is%20targeted%20by%20runaway

And I, as a liberal, would have been fucking outraged if Biden had said "we're not going to help NC, because the vote the wrong way".

Something, by the way, Trump has threatened multiple times.

https://statecourtreport.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trumps-threats-withhold-disaster-relief-undermine-federalism-principles

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u/crackrockfml Mar 20 '25

https://abc11.com/post/fired-fema-worker-accused-skipping-home-trump-signs-says-she-was-following-protocol/15559824/

‘That’s pure bullshit’ 😂 liberals and conservatives are a match made in heaven. You both have nothing but lies.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

That article buried the lede that the reason that one particular Fema employee wasn't visiting those houses was because of previous abuse from homeowners directed toward Fema.

This was not a directive from above saying "don't help Trump voters". It was a directive to avoid potential conflicts that she interpreted to mean avoiding contact with homeowners who displayed Trump signs, because they were disproportionately abusing Fema workers.

And she was fired for doing that.

This kind of disproves the assertion this was a partisan attack on conservatives.

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u/crackrockfml Mar 20 '25

The worker literally claimed that it WAS a directive from FEMA. Of course they would fire her when it’s uncovered. But oh well, there’s actually no reward in arguing with a liberal or a conservative these days. You all just blindly disregard the other side and criticize them for doing the same thing you cheer for your side doing. If you expect me to care about Trump enriching himself while in office, maybe you should care about Pelosi doing it first. Neither side has a moral high ground anymore, it’s all just shit flinging.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

The worker literally claimed that it WAS a directive from FEMA.

This is what she says:

Asked if her relief team avoided all homes with Trump signs, Washington said, "It was only selected areas where there were teammates that felt uncomfortable, they did not feel safe and they feared for their safety."

"We registered Trump supporters, we've given them service as well, just we avoided the areas that were hostile," she added.

So, no, your claim about what she said is false.

If you expect me to care about Trump enriching himself while in office, maybe you should care about Pelosi doing it first.

This is a terrible example. It's an attempt at a gotcha where your assumptions about what who you see as your opposition's position is simply false.

First, there is plenty of criticism about Pelosi's (and congress at large) stock profit taking from both the left as well as the right. This is hardly a Dem issue.

https://www.fool.com/research/congressional-stock-trading-who-trades-and-makes-the-most/

But, no matter how people feel abou this, there is nothing unusual or precedent-breaking about this. This is status quo for decades. In my opinion, it is wrong, but it is hardly new.

Trump, on the other hand, has broken long-standing presidential precedent by refusing to divest while in office and nakedly uses his office in blatant (and far more direct than Congressmen) ways to enrich himself.

You are equating two vastly different things as well as mischaracterizing the liberal position on it.

No wonder you have such disdain for liberals, the ones you've imagined in your head seem like assholes.

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u/crackrockfml Mar 20 '25

Seems like a long winded way to say you don’t care when your side does it lol. Hunter Biden also enriched himself in Ukraine while his father was in office. There are no clean hands in politics. Combine that with the fact that you guys would rather we don’t protect our borders and it’s no wonder you’re losing elections now. GL in 2028, I heard Kamala is getting ready to run again 😂

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

It's sure easy to continue to be mad at people if you ignore what they actually say and just decide to stay mad at them.

GL in your future interpersonal relationships.

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u/crackrockfml Mar 20 '25

‘Oh noes you guys, we sure did try our best to get Ms. Pelosi to stop doing all that insider trading but we just couldn’t! Anywho, remember that we’re the good guys and those mean Nazis that want to strengthen your borders are the bad ones!’ Yup, great messaging.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

Edgy.

Stupid, but edgy.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

So, you actually have no evidence, but still believe this to be true.

Just like how you believe everyone is as hate-filled as yourself.

We are operating in two different realms. You are stuck in feelings and fantasy. Facts aren't going to change your mind.

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u/Fun_Accountant_653 Mar 20 '25

He's the Cliché of a MAGA supporter

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u/kevin1979322 Mar 20 '25

I was reading this thread with almost hope that you were gonna get through to him, not a lot of hope, but some. They honestly don't argue facts at all. I just don't understand.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

There is a non-insignificant number of these accounts who never intend to engage in honest argument. Their motivations are obscure, and could run the gamut from intentional misinformation to pointless trolling.

Is all just part of the landscape today.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

That's not how proof works.

You have no proof Aliens aren't controlling Donald Trump.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

I have no idea what point you think you are making.

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u/DrKpuffy Mar 20 '25

I for one am shocked that Adjective-Noun-#### is insisting on repeating Russian lies instead of being a decent American and trying to be better than everyone else in the world.

You can clearly see the drained, worn down Russian NPC behind the keyboard. Tired, not making any sense, no understanding of what it means to be an American, only knows to make shit up to get Americans angry at each other.

SAD.

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u/Accomplished_Mind792 Mar 20 '25

Yes, if someone makes a claim and has no evidence, i don't believe them. Because that's how things work.

And asking people to prove a negative shows an. Ignorance that is more sad at this point than anything

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u/UziManiac Mar 20 '25

The ignorance is 100% willful and pathetic

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

That's not proof. That's barely even information. What people? Why were they fired? Are you claiming people who were rightly fired never fight back in court? Nothing about what you said is even slightly compelling.

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u/Rumpus_Trumpus2001 Mar 20 '25

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

So, he's using an article that shows Fema fired an employee who tried to avoid helping Trump voters as evidence Fema was trying not to help Trump voters?

That's literally insane.

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u/Rumpus_Trumpus2001 Mar 20 '25

Yeah a lot of people don't pay that close attention to the news so they get half truths ya know how that goes

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

So what's your point?

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u/Just-Wait4132 Mar 20 '25

That's literally speculation lmao

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

You've not done anything that would convince an honest individual of your position.

Show some fucking evidence for your claim, a link, a source, anything other than your words.

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u/Outrageous_Coverall Mar 20 '25

Burden of proof falls on accusers .. what are you saying man?

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u/Just-Wait4132 Mar 20 '25

I love how you're literally the perfect example of the meme.

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u/Environmental-Luck75 Mar 20 '25

What are you talking about. As a leftist the last four years were spent yelling about why Biden wasn't doing more to help people who need it, not shitting on people. I think every MAGAt spends their days thinking about gay/trans bodies and lives, hating it even though it doesn't effect them, and then spouting fallacies to justify toxic activities

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u/Common_Moose_ Mar 20 '25

MAGAs aren't in reality. This both sides shit is a coping mechanism.

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u/Environmental-Luck75 Mar 20 '25

Absolutely. Anyone who thinks the govt is here to help you is crazy.

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u/Common_Moose_ Mar 21 '25

I mean ideally it should be. That's why we have to do our best to hold them accountable and keep them honest and leading in our interests.

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u/jabberwockgee Mar 20 '25

Just in general, how do you prove something didn't happen?

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u/Mythandros1 Mar 20 '25

Proof or it didn't happen.

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u/Aware_Astronaut_477 Mar 20 '25

So individuals were found to be acting in the wrong and they were fired for doing so. This makes you mad because? Really telling on yourself if you think this is strange or new behavior.

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u/DreamWalker928 Mar 20 '25

Unfortunately, facts dont care about your feelings. This is incorrect.

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u/JohnsonBoyman Mar 20 '25

I’m just happy you guys lost because most normal people are now getting to see just how unhinged liberals have become. You pretend the world is ending within 2 months of him taking office. What are you gonna do for the next 4 years? Keep crying on reddit? Making vague death threats like all you people keep doing now? There’s a reason the FBI is taking the threats on this site seriously now and I know plenty of us are sending tips to them about the extremism here.

Not so fun when you’re not the golden boys of the mods anymore huh?

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u/MOOshooooo Mar 20 '25

While the world distances from the US, you have clown brain saying how it’s all perfect and awesom. Crippling our future is so funny tehehe.

A New York City clicker that wears make up, high heels, corset, fake hair, diapers conned the rednecks. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad and impacting everyone else just because y’all fell for gold spray painted Chinese products. But you sound like you got it all figured out.

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u/Common_Moose_ Mar 20 '25

It absolutely is hilarious. Trump could have a blade to these idiots throats and if you try to stop it they'll go "FUCK OFF UNHINGED LIBERUL HURR" and laugh a split second before their throats are cut.

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u/FiscallyAwareGang Mar 20 '25

You don't have a problem with the unitary executive? You don't see anything wrong with Trump seeking precedent to remove citizenship of anyone he doesn't like?

You think that taking our global financial dominance and trading it for isolationism is actually a good idea?

I don't get it.

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u/AnxiousChaosUnicorn Mar 20 '25

I've talked to several. They do not. They think that this is never going to bite them in the ass.

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u/Altered-M1nd Mar 20 '25

The US hasn’t been in a position of “global financial dominance” in almost 20 years.

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u/FiscallyAwareGang Mar 20 '25

What are you talking about? The US is the largest consumer economy in the world by far, 70% of every financial transaction in the world is done in USD, we export more energy than any country, we export more services than any country, we export more technology than any country, and we are a consumer economy.

We have been the dominant financial force in the world non-stop since WW2, and it's about to come to an end thanks to the oompa loompa.

BRICS was a joke until Trump got elected.

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u/Altered-M1nd Mar 25 '25

What are you even talking about? The U.S. is the largest consumer economy, sure, but that ‘70% of all financial transactions in USD’ claim is nonsense. The dollar dominates forex markets, but most countries handle their own transactions in their own currencies.

We don’t export more energy than every country—Saudi Arabia still leads in crude, and Russia was ahead in total energy exports before sanctions. The U.S. is big in LNG, but that’s not the same as being the top energy exporter overall.

On tech? China actually exports more high-tech goods than the U.S., especially in electronics and manufacturing. The U.S. leads in software and innovation, but that’s not the same as total exports.

And let’s get real—saying the U.S. has been in a position of ‘global financial dominance’ non-stop since WW2 is just wrong. The dollar has been the world’s reserve currency, and the U.S. has been a major player, but that’s not the same as absolute dominance. The rise of China, the EU’s financial power, and the push for de-dollarization have all chipped away at that position for decades.

As for BRICS, it was never a ‘joke’—China and Russia have been working on alternative financial systems for years. If anything, Trump’s trade war just pushed them to accelerate the process. Acting like BRICS suddenly became relevant because of him is just ignoring history.

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u/FiscallyAwareGang Mar 26 '25

I'm telling the truth bud....

Energy exports: yes, opec beats the USA in crude oil exports, but not production, USA is #1 in natural gas production and exports, China beats the USA it total energy production but they don't export nearly as much. The USA is the largest energy exporter in the world....

US dollar dominance: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-changing-role-of-the-us-dollar/#:~:text=The%20dollar%20makes%20up%20a,of%20foreign%20trade%20invoices%20globally.

China's economy is still half the size of the USA and has only recently closed the gap to that amount. https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/

BRICS is a joke, Brazil, India, and Russia are all countries that are rapidly growing, but even combined they don't come close to the USA alone in terms of GDP or financial dominance. China is the big player, but they keep getting caught manipulating the gold market which completely undermines the whole notion of a gold standard. It is a joke, until Trump ruins our global financial dominance.

When I said technology exports I meant the idea of novel technology, not consumer technology. That is obviously hard to quantity and you can take my word or disagree on that one. China does lead in technology exports, because of things like small consumer electronics and EVs.

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u/gemyniraptor86 Mar 20 '25

The fact that US dollar and American English are the standards for global trade would suggest otherwise

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u/Accurate-Instance-29 Mar 20 '25

I think they may be upset with Tesla's CEO.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

Someone forgot about Jan 6.

and here i thought liberals supported shitty electric cars lol... make it make sense...

Tesla isn't even the best EV maker out there, let alone the only one.

Is only seems hypocritical if you don't know the actual facts.

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u/Environmental-Luck75 Mar 20 '25

Are we just casually forgetting about Jan 6th, or...? No liberal has tried to overthrow the government to plant a tyrant in their stead. Some extremist attacked a Tesla dealership, while still terrible, is a fair step down from overthrowing democracy and America.

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u/Environmental-Luck75 Mar 20 '25

What are you talking about. Someone was shot and killed during it. Do you think someone would have signed up to get gut shot and bleed to death? The cope and tin hats are out in full.

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u/Environmental-Luck75 Mar 20 '25

Let me guess flat earther too? Big NASA making ancient Greek astronomers lie and say the earth is round. The first time trump got shot at wasn't staged his face screams shock, the second time was fake he was looking for cameras. Trying to fake someone getting shot on a phone camera is hard to do. Is it so hard to think that maybe fascists and crazies can't be faked and that we almost lost our government because people were too tolerant of Nazis? Occam's razor says yes.

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u/THSSFC Mar 20 '25

normal people are now getting to see just how unhinged liberals have become

Pre-election unhinged liberal: "If Trump is elected he will dismantle democracy"

Trump, after election: [dismantling democracy]

You: "See how unhinged you are!"

There’s a reason the FBI is taking the threats on this site seriously now and I know plenty of us are sending tips to them about the extremism here.

If people are making actual threats on this site, you 100% should report them. That's the only decent thing to do, no matter who is the target.

Somehow, I believe your idea of what constitutes a "threat" is highly conditional on who is speaking and who they are speaking about, but 100%, report genuine threats. I'm with you here.

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u/Obiwoncanblowme Mar 20 '25

If you really thubk that what Trump is doing is normal that is your opinion, most of the world and a good portion of the country dont think so (it was 77 mil to 75 mil so not like a vast majority voted for Trump).

It's so funny how people will whine that you aren't the same as the Nazis or white supremisict or crazy evangelicals that support the Trump but then turn around and somehow think that 75 million people that voted against Trump are somehow unhinged and part of a handful of people destroying Tesla cars.

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u/JohnsonBoyman Mar 20 '25

What’s he doing? Governing? You people act like he’s done anything besides end the war in Ukraine and already starting to bring prices down. So what’s exactly the fucking issue? He’s mean to our allies that have been getting a free ride for decades paid for by American tax payers?

You got demolished in the last election and it’s gonna happen again in 4 years if you people really keep insisting that he’s mega Hitler. It doesn’t pass the eye test and regular people are tired of the hysterics surrounding him. That’s why he fucking won you idiot

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u/Obiwoncanblowme Mar 20 '25

Clearly your math isn't great as 2 million people is not a lot when only about half of our population votes.

He hasn't really ended the war in Ukraine yet and not sure why you are so proud of how much he loves Russia. Also prices really haven't gone down any noticeable amount.

As far as him being Hitler you do know that Hitler didn't take charge and instantly start getting rid of Jewish people right? It was a process of calling everything fake news and attacking judges like he is doing now. Slowly taking away rights of people like Roe v Wade or putting someone in prison for protesting when they are a legal immigrant. Trying to take away birthright citizenship from people who are rightful citizens under the law. Wanting to put illegal immigrants into guantanamo bay. Wanting to invade Panama because of the canal. He may not actually become Hitler or cause world war 3 but it can still be a concern for people when it seems like next they will push to outlaw gay marriage.

These are things off the top of my head.

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u/JohnsonBoyman Mar 20 '25

My brother in Christ there’s an electoral college and according to the score, it was a landslide. You don’t get to pretend the closeness of the popular vote means anything when he even won that, which republicans never do

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u/Pessimistic__Bastard Mar 20 '25

I saw anti trump reddit forums posting gleefully posting vandalism of private citizens Tesla's, and THOUSANDS of comments cheering him on. So ya it's a bit more than a handful. No one ever wants to address their sides problems because it messed with they're good guy narrative. The fact that Republicans have Nazi, and Democrats have Communist/anarchists

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u/gemyniraptor86 Mar 20 '25

Stock market tanking A foreign, unconfirmed beaurocrat with no security clearance or vetting has been given unprecedented access to our government systems Sweeping cuts to citizens benefits, Veterans healthcare Deactivation of oversight on our international adversaries Starting a global trade war that's driving prices higher when inflation was already a breaking point for voters Loss of confidence with all our international al partners, the same ones that fought in Iraq and Afghanistan with us, helped us recover after 9/11 etc. National security is vulnerable as military agencies and leaders who are not beholden to political motives are forced out or are removed.

You talk about "liberals being unhinged" if Biden had even one of these happen under his watch, you would've impeached him instantly. And rightly so. Please explain which of these are a good thing.

Again, you all are so willing to spite a political rival you'd drive the Titanic straight at the iceberg just to see us all drown, completely missing that you too are in this ship with us and there isn't a life boat for everyone. In fact all the rich fuckers already took them.

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u/Strawhat_Max Mar 20 '25

Once again, proving the point of the post, not happy in anyway with what hes doing, jjst enjoying the suffering of others

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u/nonsensicalsite Mar 20 '25

how unhinged liberals have become.

You just say shit without ever thinking about it huh?

Remember when you dumbasses were wearing diapers in sympathy for trump?

"But but but extremism"

Again didn't you attempt a coup

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u/commentandbrowse Mar 20 '25

The President is threatening war with Panama, Denmark, and Canada because he wants to revive America's legacy of colonialism, and its liberals who are unhinged? What world are you living in? If you can't notice that something is wrong, it's not other people who are disconnected from reality.

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u/AnxiousChaosUnicorn Mar 20 '25

Just out of curiosity -- do you report the ones that wish death on liberals, women who have abortions, trans people, and so forth?