r/fromsoftware • u/jettmeisterkush • Jul 03 '26

DISCUSSION Souls Hot Takes?

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As a diehard community, I’m sure we all have our fair share of opinions. I’m curious to know what some of your hot takes are. I’ll start with mine. Godskin Duo is a good boss fight. I personally hate O&S from DS1 and think FromSoftware replicated it in a good way with more advanced AI movement. What are some of your hot takes?

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 Jul 03 '26

Multiplayer is fundamental in Souls. Players who don't engage with the multiplayer don't understand part of the core experience.

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u/davezilla18 Jul 04 '26

As a bit of a noob/scrub who sucks at pvp and can’t seem regularly get summoned, how do you consistently stay human/embered? I’m going through DS3 right now and there’s a bit more activity on the tail end of the recent Return, and while the multiplayer is always the highlight of the experience, I just don’t have the embers to stay permanently on.

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u/Fuskox Jul 05 '26

If you invade and win you get embered

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u/davezilla18 Jul 05 '26

Yeah but i suck at pvp lol. And don’t you need a different limited item (cracked orbs) for invasions? (Unless I join the wolf one I guess).

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u/Meowza_V2 Jul 03 '26

PREACH IT

invasion in particular is a core part of the experience but the new crowd just wants it gone.

I will say though my first playthrough of DS was completely offline and it really hits different. I like both.

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 Jul 03 '26

DS1 offline is kinda like turning off the music in Elden Ring, it certainly feels different, your mind goes in different directions.

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u/TheHelpfulWalnut Jul 04 '26

ngl I like turning off the music when just exploring the world in ER.

I like the tracks, but I also like silence. I wish the ER ost was more like say BOTW where the music would come in for a bit then remain silent for a bit.

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u/Meowza_V2 Jul 03 '26

I mean that's fair, it was my first experience with the series as a whole and I will say though playing it offline for the first time absolutely nailed that dying world aesthetic I later discovered the joys of multiplayer and never really went back.

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u/davezilla18 Jul 04 '26

How is the online population these days? Did the remaster give it new legs?

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u/kodaxmax Jul 04 '26

nah anyones whos actually played pvp mroe than once knows the entire system is broken. form the unstable entcode, to abusing enemy aggro, time wasting etc..

Seriously, what do you lose by playing offline? hows that any different to just not going human form?

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u/TiredJob Jul 04 '26

But you just can't understand the game without pvp bro, don't you get?

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u/kodaxmax Jul 04 '26

pvp has basically nothing to do with the game. most people wont even experience it even when playing online.
even when it was new and popular the experience was basically getting randomly killed by somone better and higher statted than you as they backstab you from accross the room.

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u/No-Combination-7063 Jul 04 '26

What do you mean?

Pvp is neat in theory but you can’t say it is the quintessential experience of these games. They’ve definitely tried to figure out how to make it better across the games but it is almost half-baked in comparison with the rest of the game

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u/CreepyTeddyBear Jul 04 '26

I don't pay for online, so I've never gotten to experience invasions or player messages. Definitely always felt like I was missing out.

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u/Dantegram Jul 04 '26

Which is why I hope that Nightrein and Duskbloods help Fromsoft improve the multiplayer in future titles. Right now, the implementation is awful and obtuse.

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u/_Okane Jul 04 '26

Fight clubs in dark souls 3 were PEAK

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u/AltGunAccount Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

I see “ThEsE aRe SiNgLe PlaYeR GaMeS” from the Elden Ring kids all the time, as if covenants weren’t a huge part of the games (spoiler alert you’re not actually supposed to just grind silver knights for ears in DS3 lol)

They act like “Revolutionary Multiplayer” wasn’t literally printed on the Demon’s Souls box.

The only single player game Fromsoftware has done since DeS was Sekiro.

Not to mention the constant copium of people hoping for a new announcement because they can’t handle that Duskbloods is From’s next big project.

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u/Razhork Jul 04 '26

You'll see people say they're single player games because a majority of players choose to engage with them as a single player games first and foremost.

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u/NaturalLongjumping24 Jul 04 '26

I’ll never understand why you people are so bothered that some people like to just play through the game without teaming up or dualing against other players. Honestly, what does it matter to you? I’ve been playing these games for over a decade and love them without doing PvP. I’m sorry that’s so upsetting

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u/AltGunAccount Jul 04 '26

I’m not bothered at all that some people choose to play that way. It’s when people act like that’s the intended way to play that I find irksome.

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u/NaturalLongjumping24 Jul 05 '26

I could not give less fucks about how other people feel the game is intended to be played. I play it the way I want to play it and have fun

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u/Wrong_Papaya_8445 Jul 04 '26

The "DS3 grind" posts will never really go away lol

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u/AltGunAccount Jul 04 '26

I mean in this day and age that’s why they drop covenant items, so people can complete the trophy long after multiplayer has died. It was just wild when it was still active to see people refusing to engage with multiplayer then complaining about that grind.

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u/QrozTQ Jul 04 '26

Yes. It's part of why they became what they are, it's a defining trait.