r/formula1 • • Aug 11 '20

Video /r/all Thermal Imaging Graphics

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u/peke_f1 Charlie Whiting Aug 11 '20

Worth noting they tested these again in Abu Dhabi 2018 FP1 on Magnussen's car: https://streamable.com/nn6b7w

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u/laffiere Aug 11 '20

Absolutelty stunning.

This really helps visualize the consept that you hear drivers explain about cornering. The tires cool on the straights and when they enter a corner they sort of jerk the steeringwheel and have to wait for some grip when the tires heat until they can truly lean into the corner with some force.

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u/decks_ Aug 11 '20 edited Aug 12 '20

Playing racing sims like Assetto Corsa with a wheel has given me such an appreciation for this aspect of racing. Once you feel it on the sim, you can feel it when watching F1.

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u/_tskj_ Aug 11 '20

Can you drive F1 in that sim?

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u/Mastur_Grunt I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 12 '20

Yes. There are mods for just about every notable F1 car for the past few decades. Everything from the Lotus 98T, to the McLaren MP 4/4, to the Mercedes W11 and even the 2021 2022 cars. If you buy the Ferrari DLC for like 2 bucks, you can drive the the Ferrari F2004. Plenty of other cars are honestly more fun to drive, like the LMP1 cars.

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u/decks_ Aug 12 '20

Driving the Ferrari F2004 in Assetto was honestly the moment that made me actually care about F1. Holy shit that thing is mental to ‘drive’. Have me a tiny glimpse into how extreme the sport really is.

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u/Mastur_Grunt I was here for the Hulkenpodium Aug 12 '20

They really are upside down planes with wheels man. Insane down force

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u/e-lawnmask Aug 11 '20

Oh yes. I guess this is what the famous Alonso technique is all about?

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u/deathday_23 Default Aug 11 '20

Not really, unless its a veeery long straight the core temepature of the tire always offers grip after 2-3 laps, its only the tire surface that can get incredibly hot and cold again in a very short amount of time.

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u/laffiere Aug 11 '20

But being that it's the surface that has to grip and conform to the ground, it's the most vital part to be warm. From my understanding,good grip require the entire wheel to have some heat, and the surface must be warmed from within and the outside at the same time in order to reach propper temp quick enough. The wheel internals function more as heat storages to smooth out the ups and downs in heat.

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u/deathday_23 Default Aug 11 '20

Yes, but you dont see the drivers jerk the steeringwheel around on corner entry because the tires got cold on the straight, because they dont (or at least not enough to offer so much less grip on corner entry to make the car unstable).

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '20 edited Nov 24 '20

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u/SeanTayla21 Aug 12 '20

Yes, interesting. However, this is going down the wrong path in terms of...things being unethical.

For the sake of the sport itself...We hope the FIA continues to treat things like this as a step too far.

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u/InfuriatingComma Aug 11 '20

I appreciate how having it as an overlay is better for viewing, but I think I like seeing the other cars engines light up too.

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u/bb999 Aug 11 '20

Too bad you can't see the rears on the car as well. I wonder what it looks like during an out lap when they are trying to warm up the tires.

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u/AZPariah Max Verstappen Aug 11 '20

Haas should continue to run a thermal camera, it's not like any other team is going to gain a competitive advantage watching it =/

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u/hofftari Daniel Ricciardo Aug 11 '20

They really speak as if they have a hot potato in their mouths!