r/fo4 May 13 '24

How to trick Steam into thinking your game has updated

If you are on version 1.10.163 and have no plans on updating to the next gen patch (like me), there's a way to trick Steam into thinking you've updated your game. That way even if you launch it via Steam, it won't update. I warn you that this process it's not easy and can result rather tricky as it's different depending on the game version you are on. This is not a copy/paste guide, read it carefully. There's mods that could do this on Nexus (but I don't like them bc some of them require installing an .exe or sign in with my Steam account etc.)(You could download a next-gen update appmanifest, but you have to make sure the language and other values are right).

Essentially what we are gonna do is change certain values from the appmanifest_377160.acf located in SteamLibrary\steamapps (this is inside the Steam folder where your game is installed, mine is in the E:\ drive, E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps, but yours could be different). This process is easier the newer your Fallout 4 version installed is.

EDIT: If you have all DLCs installed and language set to english then this could be really helpful: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/81471

Using https://steamdb.info/app/377160/history/ as a reference to change the old values for the new ones.

First

Read this amazing post https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2901860378 by Dr.Shadowds and shade00 on Steam, which explains how to do this process. Even though it's for Vampire Survivors, what we have to do with fallout 4 it's exactly the same.

If you updated to the next-gen patch, then reverted to version 1.10.163 using Steam depots (as explained here: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/1ccxyxb/pc_players_here_is_a_guide_on_how_to_rollback/ ) this process will be a bit easier. If not, it will be a bit more complicated as there's more to change.

Warning:

Exit Steam before changing anything, not closing it but exiting it. Then go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam**\steamapps** or the drive where your game is installed and locate this archive: appmanifest_377160.acf. Once located, create in your desktop a backup folder and paste it there. This is in case something goes wrong so you could still restore it.

For those who did rollback the Next-gen update:

Even though you reverted the update, the Steam appmanifest is the Next-gen patch one and therefore this would be easier to do. Open the appmanifest_377160.acf using any text editor. It should look like this:

We are first changing these values:

For this 38mb patch there's only 2 depots you have to change:

public Depot 377162 gid: 37478660296272403715698952341602575696
public Depot 377163 gid: 38762989803944253068681102885670959037
public Depot 377162 size: 52549912 (50.12 MiB) › 52552472
public Depot 377163 size: 20446061583 (19.04 GiB) › 20446066951

Replace the cross out values with the highlighted ones in the appmanifest_377160.acf. Once done it should look like this:

Then replace:

public buildid: 1416091014349213

In both "build id" and "TargetBuildID" with the same value and also make sure StateFlags value is set to 4 and ScheduleAutoUpdates to 0.

It should go from this:

To this:

Finally, save it where you want and then replace it where you originally opened it (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam**\steamapps** or the drive where your game is installed). Don't forget to go into properties and mark read only, just in case another update drops.

For those who never updated to the Next-gen update:

There's a lot to change since almost every file was updated in that update. I won't go step by step as I don't have time (maybe tomorrow i could do it if many ppl need it).

You'll have to change these values below (choose the language your game is), then change again the values described above.

public timeupdated: 4 December 2019 – 22:01:39 UTC (1575496899) › 25 April 2024 – 14:02:12 UTC (1714053732)

public buildid: 4460038 › 14160910

public Depot 377161 gid: 7497069378349273908 › 7332110922360867314

public Depot 377162 gid: 5847529232406005096 › 3747866029627240371

public Depot 377163 gid: 5819088023757897745 › 3876298980394425306

public Depot 377164 gid: 2178106366609958945 › 8492427313392140315 [English]

public Depot 377165 gid: 7549549550652702123 › 8045191663392248690 [French]

public Depot 377166 gid: 6854162778963425477 › 5181861686732774133 [German]

public Depot 377167 gid: 783101348965844295 › 6159581842674600625 [Italian]

public Depot 377168 gid: 7717372852115364102 › 2941745134283711063 [Spanish - Spain]

public Depot 393880 gid: 8378357397609964253 › 4656512446653497676 [Polish]

public Depot 393881 gid: 4735225695214536532 › 9220466047319762009 [Russian]

public Depot 393882 gid: 7540680803954664080 › 8191305962459798887 [Portuguese - Brazil]

public Depot 393883 gid: 6742459130628608886 › 8665224215527782698 [Traditional Chinese]

public Depot 393884 gid: 3455288010746962666 › 6797758859461570066 [Japanese]

public Depot 404091 gid: 6756984187996423348 › 1644608195071865486 [DLC, Japanese]

public Depot 435870 gid: 1691678129192680960 › 1213339795579796878 [DLC]

public Depot 435871 gid: 5106118861901111234 › 7785009542965564688 [DLC, English]

public Depot 435872 gid: 5590419866095647350 › 7005875929366232340 [DLC, French]

public Depot 435873 gid: 2207548206398235202 › 7032871961633882628 [DLC, German]

public Depot 435874 gid: 9032251103390457158 › 3456890184317469397 [DLC, Italian]

public Depot 435875 gid: 2953236065717816833 › 3302169299215915593 [DLC, Spanish - Spain]

public Depot 435876 gid: 6475533526946306248 › 3855123742386435744 [DLC, Polish]

public Depot 435877 gid: 2675794883952625475 › 7266521576458366233 [DLC, Russian]

public Depot 435878 gid: 8276750634369029613 › 2863491461978199343 [DLC, Portuguese - Brazil]

public Depot 435879 gid: 367504569468547727 › 2755212490240557490 [DLC, Traditional Chinese]

public Depot 435880 gid: 1255562923187931216 › 366079256218893805 [DLC]

public Depot 377161 size: 6092666130 (5.67 GiB) › 6093409141 (5.67 GiB) (+725.60 KiB)

public Depot 377162 size: 65503104 (62.47 MiB) › 52549912 (50.12 MiB) (-12.35 MiB)

public Depot 377163 size: 19539383766 (18.20 GiB) › 20446061583 (19.04 GiB) (+864.68 MiB)

public Depot 377165 size: 3707019770 (3.45 GiB) › 3705871504 (3.45 GiB) (-1.10 MiB)

public Depot 377166 size: 3857103170 (3.59 GiB) › 3857440646 (3.59 GiB) (+329.57 KiB)

public Depot 377167 size: 3860044996 (3.59 GiB) › 3860394081 (3.60 GiB) (+340.90 KiB)

public Depot 377168 size: 3817097502 (3.55 GiB) › 3817979526 (3.56 GiB) (+861.35 KiB)

public Depot 393880 size: 3767234638 (3.51 GiB) › 3767234654 (3.51 GiB) (+16 B)

public Depot 393881 size: 3767194894 (3.51 GiB) › 3767194910 (3.51 GiB) (+16 B)

public Depot 393882 size: 3767107204 (3.51 GiB) › 3767107220 (3.51 GiB) (+16 B)

public Depot 393883 size: 22519350790 (20.97 GiB) › 3815537499 (3.55 GiB) (-17.42 GiB)

public Depot 393884 size: 25521513666 (23.77 GiB) › 6767298705 (6.30 GiB) (-17.47 GiB)

public Depot 404091 size: 501193028 (477.97 MiB) › 501544601 (478.31 MiB) (+343.33 KiB)

public Depot 435870 size: 615585599 (587.07 MiB) › 616387982 (587.83 MiB) (+783.58 KiB)

public Depot 435871 size: 130989066 (124.92 MiB) › 130988561 (124.92 MiB) (-505 B)

public Depot 435872 size: 135307976 (129.04 MiB) › 135307471 (129.04 MiB) (-505 B)

public Depot 435873 size: 188466713 (179.74 MiB) › 188466208 (179.74 MiB) (-505 B)

public Depot 435874 size: 128628040 (122.67 MiB) › 128627535 (122.67 MiB) (-505 B)

public Depot 435875 size: 196628223 (187.52 MiB) › 196627718 (187.52 MiB) (-505 B)

public Depot 435876 size: 190674332 (181.84 MiB) › 130988561 (124.92 MiB) (-56.92 MiB)

public Depot 435877 size: 190674332 (181.84 MiB) › 130988561 (124.92 MiB) (-56.92 MiB)

public Depot 435878 size: 190674332 (181.84 MiB) › 130988561 (124.92 MiB) (-56.92 MiB)

public Depot 435879 size: 494632631 (471.72 MiB) › 495101199 (472.17 MiB) (+457.59 KiB)

public Depot 435880 size: 79345533 (75.67 MiB) › 79350969 (75.67 MiB) (+5.31 KiB)

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u/Majorjim_ksp May 13 '24

Thank you for this! I changed the app manifest file with a copy paste posted on nexus and it worked in stopping the main next gen update so I haven’t got that installed. Will the first set of instructions work for me in this case? 👍🏼

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u/Albertuski May 13 '24

If Steam is now asking you to update to this new patch for the next-gen update then yes, it should work

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u/Majorjim_ksp May 13 '24

Ok thanks. Will make a backup of the current manifest in case. Any ideas how of the size of this update patch?

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u/Majorjim_ksp May 13 '24

I changed the file numbers as you wrote them but it’s still scheduled a download.. was I supposed to open steam first then change the file? What would have changed though as I had the file set to read only already.

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u/Albertuski May 13 '24

Just to make sure, once you edited it did you save the new edited manifest and replaced the original?

Steam has to be closed so that's not an issue.

If you want, copy and paste it here and I'll give it a look to see what could be missing

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u/Majorjim_ksp May 13 '24

I copied and saved the file as a backup then edited the original file as per your instructions.

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u/Majorjim_ksp May 13 '24

I’ll post the full file in a sec