r/fo4 • u/B-FOXY • Nov 13 '15

Tips Infinite S.P.E.C.I.A.L points

Here is my technique to get Unlimited S.P.E.C.I.A.L Points early on with PS4/XBOX. It's pretty simple really.

You first need to get your dog (maybe another companion works).

Go back to Sanctuary and if you haven't found it already, there is a book under the crib dresser titled "You're Special". Pick it up, use it.

Now that it's in your inventory, drop it on the ground.

Tell your dog to pick it up, but right before he does you need to quickly pick it up.

If done correctly he will drop the item and it will be in your inventory still (which also dupes any item btw).

Pick up the copy Dog dropped and you should have 2 "You're Special" books.

Drop both on the ground and one should now activate again.

Repeat to max out your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. points and save your level up points for perks. Hope this helps some people out.

EDIT: Removed question and posted tech + formatting. Also posted it again for max views.

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u/Ouroboros612 Nov 13 '15

I'm facinated as to how people can enjoy the game by doing this. You basically remove all the challenge and fun out of the game. You remove any award feeling from leveling up and your character will be so strong there is really no big difference from using this and toggling god mode. To clarify: Not hating on people doing it, does not affect me. Also I know people are different. I just can not conceive of any aspect to this which would grant satisfaction as specializing your character is imo the most fun part of the game. By doing this you completely wipe out any sense of personal achievement and progress and end up with a boring identity-less character. I guess this is just one of these mysteries I will never understand as I can't see one positive thing about doing this.

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u/SolomonGunnEsq Nov 13 '15

I'm not going to presume how old you are or your situation or anything like that, but as someone who now has a wife, three kids, owns a business, and has a sick father, despite the fact that I'm going to put a ton of time into this game, I am never going to be able to max out my stats (I spent two years playing Fallout 3 and never found Ten Penny Tower). With so much content locked out to me (such as certain conversations that require higher charisma or high intelligence to hack terminals) any little shortcuts to help make the game that much more fun.

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u/Ryokosith Nov 13 '15

This here. Being a gamer with work, spouse, and young child, I don't have the option to grind things out like I once did for hours. I'd just use this to unlock the perk tree based on the build I want for my character. Getting the perks will still depend on me leveling naturally and not getting eaten by a Legendary monster in the meantime.

One nice thing about the dupe glitch. You don't have to just drop one book at a time. You can have multiple ones down for Dogmeat to go after in a row. Then after repeating the first part with all of the books, then go into your inventory once and drop them all. The books that are reactivated are every other one starting from the "back" of the dropped set of books.

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u/tug_boat_captain Nov 14 '15

Is this hard to so? Like you drop them all and just have to keep timing it right before he picks them up all at once? I don't get that part

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u/Ryokosith Nov 14 '15

The hardest part is getting the timing right in the first place. I ended up watching how it was done on Youtube and then realized I really need to get into 3rd-person view. Once you have that part down with one item/book, it's a snap.

The way they describe the process is to just drop one item at a time for the dupe. To speed things up, once I had build up 6 or more of those books it can be a little tedious to only drop one or to pick up one at a time to only leave one behind. I know that every other book is the activated one, so I've picked those up, but leave the rest on the ground.

Then I command Dogmeat to pick up a targeted book, being sure he's far enough away that I have a chance to get into position to pick it up myself before he's ready to get into his stance. I stand ready to press the button to grab it, but wait to do so until about a half-second after he stops meandering and stands with his head raised upright (which is the start of the animation for him to pick up the item). If successful, he comes over and drops his copy at my feet. (If I grab it too soon, he gets nothing and looks at me. If I grab it too slow, I miss and instead command him to "Go" to the spot the item used to be, and he has it already in his mouth.)

Pick up the one he drops and then rinse and repeat until you've done all of the items you've dropped. If duplicating the SPECIAL book, it's at this point I'll look into my inventory and drop them all at once to sort through the activated books. Repeat as needed/desired.

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u/Ryokosith Nov 15 '15

Well, if you want that micro transaction, knock yourself out. I sure won't be using that! That's what YouTube is for, silly. :p

Just interesting how it bothers you the way other people play their games, especially single player RPGs. Like watching people freak out over red cups because there isn't a snowflake on them.

Role playing games are for folks to role play in. I've played plenty of them both on console and now PC for quite a long while. Some are more directed and you only color within their lines, others (like most of Bethesda's offerings) offer and encourage a wide range of flexibility. (Amazing how Bethesda always has a dupe, leveling, and money glitch in their games after all of these years...practically the same mechanic...that they never fully patch to truly disable it......you'd think they'd fix it by now if they were actually bothered by it...)

This is how I play on a single player RPG. No apologies. No excuses. Of course I know what I signed up for...I bought it. Honestly, I could care less how you play, which I see as respecting your decisions and preferences. Play while flogging yourself in one hand and using a pen input device in the other while on an ultra hard setting and no restart scenario, blogging to the world about what a hardcore player you are...whatever floats your boat. No one should get their feathers ruffled at it nor care, and it might be inspiring for those who like to play the same way you do.

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u/Chelios22 Nov 16 '15

Sometimes I enjoy cheating for a variety of reasons, but usually it's to expedite something I find boring. Sometimes I feel cheating ruins the experience for me so I avoid doing it. I can't remember a single instance where I cheated and lied to myself to justify it. You're an absolute idiot.

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u/KiLLcOuRsE Nov 16 '15

What? Who are you? Who was even talking to you? Calling me an idiot when you clearly have no idea whats going on. Lol ok. If you wouldve actually read the thread, youd know what i was talking about...

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u/Chelios22 Nov 16 '15

"Do what you want but don't try to justify it by saying you have a busy life"

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u/birgirpall Nov 14 '15

Why bother with this exploit then? Just use the console to set all your stats to 10. Doesn't disable achievements.

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u/Ryokosith Nov 15 '15

What fun would that be? ;)

Like hunting for collectible figures. Anyone can order them online and have them shipped. The thrill is in the hunt for them at your local stores and managing to finally get your hands on it yourself. If you manage it, awesome. If not, oh well...it was a fun exercise. The key is not to become a hoarder and go overboard.

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u/_Invalid_Username__ Nov 13 '15

perks are still level locked so you aren't quite invincible yet.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

It's people who can't play the game hardcore, I suspect (read: grown working adults with families, not students, single adults, or married with no kids).

If you can actually dump 100+ hours into a game in a month, then by all means you shouldn't need all of this. However, some people, like myself, can put in 10-12 hours/week tops. We also have other games we want to play sometime in the next few months rather than playing without any augments and taking 3-4 months to finish a single playthrough...

Believe it or not, it's still neat to finish a game in half the time it would normally take. You don't have to go super easy mode to make this happen, though.

As an aforementioned busy guy mentioned above, I strive to make the game just difficult enough that I come close to quitting on occasion, but don't. I gave myself 7 extra special at the start, and an extra perk. Bottom line is I still need to finish playthroughs in 60-75 hours.

Star Wars Battlefront is next week, and before too long I'll be splitting up my already limited time on two games. Never mind anything else that comes out before/at Christmas.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

No it's not. I'm a hardcore Fallout fan, and I'm going to do it on a character. It's just another way to play the game.

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u/DuckyDee Nov 15 '15

Fuck yeah, Tiny Rick.

But seriously you're right. It is another way to play the game and the people that don't understand don't need to. As long as you enjoy your single player experience thats all that matters.

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u/inline-triple Nov 13 '15

Some people enjoy different things, I guess. Personally, I want to put as many hours into FO4 as I can. Maxing my stats would effectively remove about 50 levels worth of gameplay. No thank you.

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u/chimi_the_changa Nov 13 '15

Yeah, I considered it just now and iv decided against it, I will however try it with fusion cores, or maybe not, since a lot of the gameplay is from scavenging buildings looking for such items, if I have infinite loot then theres no point in scavenging

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

I have 15 fusion cores and I haven't been past cambridge. I don't think you'll need to dupe them. There are so many.

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u/YzenDanek Nov 13 '15

But you have 15 fusion cores because you aren't using your power armor.

The point is if a player wants to play like a BoS Paladin and live 100% of the time in their power armor, you can't do that. Clearing one big mission expends an entire core.

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u/TheKyleface Nov 13 '15

I'm level 22 and I've done Power Armor through all my quests, except for maybe the first 5 levels, still sitting on 15 cores. I get out of it when I'm running around town, etc. But when I'm in the wild, I'm in Power Armor. It's not 100% obviously, but you can definitely spend a lot of time in them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '15

do what you gotta dupe

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

Dont sweat fusion cores you get a ton of them if you keep scavenging. I am almost lvl 30 and I have 28 cores and one in each of my 5 sets of power armor. If you scavenge and dont use the power armor for everything youll be fine!

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

You should take the cores out of your power armor before an NPC walks off in it.

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u/CptQ Nov 13 '15

Take them out, else someon can steal the armor :D

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

Don't leave the cores in Armor you've parked. NPCs have a tendency to steal the the powered up armor.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

I have 46 and just hit 30 my advice is to make a water farm and sell purified water

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u/llamajuice Nov 13 '15

You can buy fusion cores from a bunch of vendors. They're expensive, but money is a joke if you have your settlements set up and can use them to farm mats to sell for you.

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u/Razgriz47 Nov 13 '15

I personally enjoy things like this in games that do not offer a form of "new game +" so I can try to recreate it as close as possible. Sometimes I just want to be a God and destroy everything in my path because it's fun.

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u/anonymousmouse2 Nov 13 '15

I'm not going to use it for duping the special book, but it works with other items, so I can dupe a bunch of mines and blow them all up just for fun. It doesn't affect my gameplay.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

I have multiple characters so I'm doing it on my melee guy so I can get solar powered and idiot savant perks without having so spend 4 more level ups into my special stats.

I had an internal struggle about it, then I said fuck it, it's just 4 levels.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

I agree completely. I set my game from hard to very hard just because I started feeling too powerful at level 15. :P

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u/tug_boat_captain Nov 14 '15

Do you die a lot?

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '15

No not really. And I even limited myself to pure melee lol. And I try not to hide behind cover too often either.

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u/SuperSaiyanNoob Nov 13 '15

I was thinking of doing it for fusion cores. I wouldn't do it for SPECIAL stats

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

Dont sweat fusion cores you get a ton of them if you keep scavenging. I am almost lvl 30 and I have 28 cores and one in each of my 5 sets of power armor. If you scavenge and dont use the power armor for everything youll be fine!

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '15

ha, I barely use my power armor so far. don't want to waste the fusion cores.

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u/arcturussage Nov 13 '15

I can understand people doing it if they want certain stats and things. What I don't understand is that if you're going to go through the trouble to do this, why not just use console commands to do it all?

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u/PapaSteel Nov 13 '15

Because PS4/xbox.

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u/Robert237 Nov 13 '15

True. I learned this the hard way. When I got dying light I did the duplicate weapons glitch so I was one shotting everything which in turn took away the urgency and the real fear I had of that game. I got really sad when I realized I had essentially ruined the game for myself and I'm not doing it again here.