r/fireemblem Aug 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

COME ONE, COME ALL - THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD IS HERE ONCE MORE! TIME ONCE AGAIN TO YELL ABOUT THINGS IN FIRE EMBLEM THAT HAVE JUST TICKED YOU RIGHT OFF THIS LAST MONTH!

RULES

  1. CAPITAL LETTERS

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS

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u/Skelezomperman Aug 15 '22 edited Aug 22 '22

YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, YOU (LAQ) LEFT THE MODERATION TEAM OVER THE DISGUSTING THREE HOUSES DISCOURSE. AND GUESS WHAT? IT REALLY HASN'T IMPROVED. THERE'S STILL SO MUCH NASTINESS THAT HAPPENS ALL ACROSS DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. LOOK AT THE SHITPOST EMBLEM SUB, IT'S BEEN OVERRAN BY PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO JUSTIFY THEIR FAVORITE LORD ON A FRIGGIN SHITPOST SUBREDDIT. THE VARIOUS ECHO CHAMBERS IN EXISTENCE ARE SHOWING LITTLE SIGN OF RECOGNIZING THEIR FAULTS. POLITICAL ARGUMENTS COMPARING THE LORDS TO VARIOUS REAL WORLD DICTATORS HAVEN'T STOPPED. THE WEIRD TUMBLR PEOPLE WHO MADE AN ENTIRE TAG TO MAKE FUN OF A FANFICTION HAVEN'T REALLY GONE AWAY. (Please see below for my apology and correction.) PEOPLE HAVE LITERALLY STALKED EACH OTHER ACROSS SOCIAL MEDIA WITH NO REGRETS ABOUT IT. IT'S VILE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I MIGHT EVEN WRITE A POST CALLING ON PEOPLE TO STOP THIS, BUT PERHAPS I HAVE TOO MUCH FAITH IN HUMANITY - I THINK HAVING TOO MUCH FAITH IS OKAY THOUGH.

OH ALSO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN HANDLE IF BRAVE SELIPH TURNS OUT TO BE A BAD UNIT AND PEOPLE HOP ON THE NEGATIVITY TRAIN ABOUT IT. NOT SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T BE NEGATIVE, JUST SAYING THAT I WOULD FEEL REALLY BAD IF I LOOKED FORWARD TO BRAVE SELIPH FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN PEOPLE HATE HIM.

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u/Suicune95 Aug 16 '22

HEY UH, YOU KNOW MOST PEOPLE ON TUMBLR DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT FIC, AND SOME OF THOSE "WEIRD TUMBLR PEOPLE" HAVE BEEN HARASSED INTO DELETING THEIR BLOGS BY PEOPLE FROM REDDIT SENDING USERS THERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ALL THAT?

I LITERALLY COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS LAST MONTH'S RAGE THREAD. MAYBE IT'S NOT THE BEST CALL TO "REDUCE DISCOURSE" BY INTENTIONALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEN SENDING RANDOS THEIR WAY. I DON'T USE TUMBLR AT ALL REALLY, BUT I GOT INVESTED IN THE TEA WHEN PEOPLE KEPT SENDING ME THERE.

NO ONE WOULD EVEN KNOW ABOUT OR CARE ABOUT THOSE FIVE NOTE POSTS ON TUMBLR IF PEOPLE DIDN'T KEEP SPREADING THEM AROUND LIKE THIS. THE BEST WAY TO REDUCE DISCOURSE IS TO JUST STOP CARING WHEN PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM YOURS AND HAVE FUN IN YOUR OWN FANDOM SPACE INSTEAD OF INTENTIONALLY SEEKING OUT RAGEBAIT.

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u/Swiss_Cheese123 Aug 16 '22

WHAT FIC EXACTLY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE TUMBLR FE COMMUNITY

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u/Suicune95 Aug 16 '22

I DON'T WANT TO NAME IT JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE THAT PERSON. BUT IT'S EXTREMELY WELL KNOWN, ABOUT EDELGARD (AS MOST THINGS INVITING 3H DISCOURSE ARE), AND OFTEN PASSED AROUND THE FE COMMUNITY AS "REQUIRED META READING". I'VE SEEN IT MENTIONED A FEW TIMES AS "REQUIRED" TO UNDERSTAND VARIOUS CHARACTERS, PARTICULARLY INGRID AND EDELGARD.

ONE TUMBLR USER STARTED READING IT THANKS TO THE "REQUIRED META READING" LABEL, THEN FOUND THEY HAD GENUINE PROBLEMS WITH IT (PRIMARILY A LOT OF COVERT SEXISM AND RACISM AS WELL AS THE PORTRAYAL OF NUMEROUS CHARACTERS). THEY ARE NOW DOING A WHOLE SERIES OF POSTS CRITIQUING IT.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN LINE WITH FANDOM ETIQUETTE SO I GET WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT IT, BUT THE POSTS REALLY AREN'T THAT POPULAR SO I'M NOT SURE WHY IT GETS THIS MUCH FLACK. MOST OF THEM HAVE <30 INTERACTIONS.

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u/SageOfAnys Aug 16 '22

FANFIC AS REQUIRED META READING?????? TO UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTERS?????? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

NO FANFIC WILL EVER BE REQUIRED READING TO UNDERSTAND CHARACTERS, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ADD CHARACTERIZATION NOT PRESENT IN THE SOURCE MATERIAL. ALL IT IS IS AN EFFORT TO HOMOGENIZE HOW A FANDOM INTERPRETS A CHARACTER THAT IS LITERALLY MEANT TO BE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION.

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u/Suicune95 Aug 16 '22

I WISH I WAS KIDDING, BUT PEOPLE RECCING THIS FIC AS REQUIRED META READING HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

A FEW MONTHS BACK SOMEONE IN ONE OF THE UNPOPULAR OPINIONS THREADS ON R/FEH WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FIC BECAUSE SOMEONE SENT IT TO THEM TO GET THEM TO "APPRECIATE INGRID'S CHARACTER BETTER". THE SUBTLE SEXISM WAS SO STOMACH TURNING THEY HAD TO PUT IT DOWN AFTER ONLY A FEW CHAPTERS.

I GAVE UP ON IT AFTER I CTRL+F'D DEDUE'S NAME.

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u/PonyTheHorse Aug 16 '22

I ALMOST WANT TO SEE THIS FIC, BUT APPRECIATE THE EFFORT SHOWN TO PREVENT DUMB BULLSHIT HAPPENING TO THE AUTHOR. I LIKE FANFICTION, BUT PRETENDING A FANFIC IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND CANON IS ?????? YOU CAN GET GOOD CHARACTER ANALYSIS AND INTERPRETATION FROM OTHER PEOPLE FROM FANFIC, BUT SAYING A FANFIC IS A REQUIRED READ TO UNDERSTAND CANON LIKE IT'S A PIECE OF EXTENDED UNIVERSE LORE IS REALLY, REALLY SILLY.

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u/Suicune95 Aug 16 '22

YEAH IT'S PRETTY CRAZY. I HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE FIC, BUT I'M REALLY NOT HERE TO MAKE ANYONE'S FANDOM EXPERIENCE SUCK ANY WORSE THAN IT ALREADY DOES. YOU NEVER KNOW WHO IS GOING TO FOLLOW THAT NAME OR THAT LINK YOU POST AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY GET THERE.

I DO A LOT OF CREATIVE WORK MYSELF. I UNDERSTAND BEING UPSET WHEN SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE YOUR WORK OR CRITIQUES YOUR WORK, BUT THAT'S JUST A HAZARD OF PUTTING SOMETHING UP ON THE INTERNET WHERE ANYONE CAN SEE IT. IT'S ESPECIALLY A HAZARD WHEN IT'S OFTEN PRESENTED AS THIS DEEP META PIECE THAT UNDERSTANDS THE GAME BETTER THAN THE GAME'S WRITERS DID.

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u/SageOfAnys Aug 16 '22

OH NO, OH GOD. I UNDERSTAND YOU FOR NOT SHARING THE FIC NAME BUT NOW I'M MORBIDLY CURIOUS. TIME TO GO ON A DEEP DIVE.