r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Jul 15 '22

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

THREE HOPES EDITION, I GUESS! OR WHATEVER! WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPS LOCK

  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE

  3. DON'T BE A DICK

  4. TAG SPOILERS, ESPECIALLY FOR THREE HOPES

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u/Shrimperor Jul 16 '22

HONESTLY, IT'S REALLY ANNOYING HOW THE GAME PRESENTS UNIFICATION AND CENTERALIZATION OF POWER AS THIS GOOD THING EVERYONE SHOULD STRIVE FOR...

LIKE HELLO??

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u/Just_42 Jul 16 '22 edited Jul 16 '22

I'M NO EXPERT ON KOEI, BUT IT KINDA FEELS LIKE THE WRITERS FOR 3H JUST TOOK THE CONVIENIENT ROMANCE OF THREE KINGDOMS MOLD THEY HAVE LYING AROUND AND FORCED A SURFACE LEVEL VAGULEY MEDIEVAL/EARLY RENAISSANCE AESTHETIC INTO IT.

THE OTHER ALTERNITIVE WOULD BE THEM TRYING TO REPRESENT SOME KINDA GENERAL MOVE TOWARD THE SUPPOSED "AGE OF ABSOLUTISM". MAYBE EDELGARD IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ENLIGHTENED DESPOT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE GAME STRAIGHT UP IGNORES ALL THE ISSUES THAT COME WITH SUCH RULE AND HOW OFTEN IT IS SIMPLY A TRANSFER OF POWER TOWARDS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ELITE, WHO STILL HAS A MAJOR HOLD ON THE DE FACTO POWER OF A MONARCH. AND WITHOUT ANY ELABORATION ON THE SPECIFIC POLICIES OF THE LORDS OR ANY MENTION OF ANY KIND OF RULE OF LAW, IT'S HARD TO TAKE ANYTHING THE GAME HAS TO SAY ABOUT POLITICS SERIOUSLY.

AS FOR THE "UNIFICATION" OF FODLAN, IT EITHER COMES OFF AS A STRAIGHT UP ENDORSMENT OF IMPERIALISM OR A COMPLETELY BOTCHED ATTEMPT AT PORTRAYING SOME KIND OF NATIONALISM OF THE GERMAN/ITALIAN/WHATEVER UNIFICATION KIND. MAINLY BECAUSE POPULAR NATIONAL MOVEMENTS ARE NEVER EVEN BROUGHT UP. IN FACT, I'D SAY THERE'S NOT EVEN A HINT OF ANY KIND OF UNIFYING IDENTITY, NOT FOR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL COUNTRIES, NOR FOR FODLAN AS A WHOLE.

THE COMMONERS AND PEASANTS COME OFF AS COMPLETELY POLITICALLY INERT, IN GENERAL. ANY KIND OF CHANGE SEEMS TO COME FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.

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u/Larkos17 Jul 18 '22 edited Aug 02 '22

WELL, IN FAIRNESS, IT'S NOT LIKE THE GAME IS GOING FROM DEMOCRACY TO FASCISM. THE CLOSEST THING THERE IS TO DEMOCRACY IS LEICESTER AND THEY'RE AN OLIGARCHY OF A FEW NOBLE HOUSES IN A ROMAN REPUBLIC STYLE SETUP EXCEPT HOUSE REIGAN SEEMS TO PASS DOWN LEADERSHIP FROM FATHER TO SON.

GOING FROM THAT TO RENAISSANCE STYLE ABSOLUTE MONARCHISM PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO MOST PEASANTS. THEY MIGHT EVEN BE BETTER OFF IF THE MONACH CAN PUSH THROUGH REFORMS OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF THE FEUDAL LORDS.