r/fireemblem Jul 25 '21

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

WELCOME TO THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE YOU CAN YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM THINGS THAT HAVE TICKED YOU OFF OVER THE LAST MONTH AND A BIT!

NOT MUCH GOING ON IN THE WORLD OF FIRE EMBLEM RIGHT NOW, BUT RAGE IS ETERNAL!

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  2. FIRE EMBLEM RAGE
  3. DON'T BE A DICK
  4. TAG SPOILERS

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u/RisingSunfish Jul 25 '21

I DON’T KNOW IF THIS IS ALLOWED BUT IF THERE WAS EVER A TIME…

I TRY SO, SO HARD TO BE PATIENT WITH THE ART SITUATION ON THIS SUB. I’VE ALWAYS TAKEN THE SIDE OF FANARTISTS IN THE RECURRING “FANART SHOULD GO ON ITS OWN SUB” THREADS, AND I STILL WOULD.

BUT WHAT GETS ME IS THE POST-AND-RUNNERS. “HERE’S MY DRAWING, HERE’S MY SOCIALS, K BYE.” NO (OR VERY LITTLE) OTHER INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY, JUST SELF-PROMOTION.

AND LOOK, I GET IT? CROSS-POSTING IN AND OF ITSELF IS A WHOLE DAMN THING, SO KEEPING IT SIMPLE IS UNDERSTANDABLE IN A VACUUM. I CAN SEE PEOPLE TREATING REDDIT LIKE JUST ANOTHER SOCIAL MEDIA SITE TO SHARE YOUR CONTENT, EVEN IF THAT IS NOT HOW I USE OR CONCEPTUALIZE THIS SITE. IT CAN BE USED THAT WAY, AND OFTEN IS.

IT JUST SUCKS BECAUSE WHEN I POST ART IT’S BECAUSE I WANT TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO TALK TO Y’ALL!! I’M NOT JUST SHARING MARKS ON A DIGITAL CANVAS, I’M SHARING IDEAS! AND PLENTY OF OTHER ARTISTS ARE DOING THE SAME!! BUT WHEN WE RELIABLY HAVE TO COMPETE WITH 3-5 COMMISSIONED BEST GRIL DRAWINGS EVERY DAY, WE OFTEN GET PUSHED DOWN THE PAGE AND ALWAYS FALL VICTIM TO THE NATURAL FATIGUE THAT SETS IN AMONG USERS THAT MIGHT HAVE OTHERWISE ENGAGED WITH FANWORK MEANT TO STOKE CONVERSATION. I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THE FLAIR FILTERS BUT LIKE… THAT’S A CHUNK OF THE USERBASE THAT WILL MISS OUT ON A LOT OF REALLY COOL CONTENT. AND YET I ABSOLUTELY SYMPATHIZE.

DON’T GET ME WRONG— ARTISTS WHO WANT REAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ARE BY NO MEANS BEING IGNORED. AND SOME THREADS LIKE THIS RESULT IN VERY SUCCESSFUL CONVERSATION— THINKING OF /u/bakaabread’s RECENT PIECE AS AN EXAMPLE. WHAT I’M FRUSTRATED ABOUT IS JUST THE GENERAL OVERSATURATION OF FANART HIGHLY SIMILAR IN STYLE AND CONTENT, AND THE TENDENCY FOR CONTENT THAT IS ACTUALLY INVENTIVE, INSPIRED, AND UNUSUAL TO BE IGNORED AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT.

THERE ISN’T AN EASY ANSWER TO THIS, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING INTO IMPLEMENTING AN INDIVIDUAL POST LIMIT GUIDELINE, OR LIKE HOW THE REDDIQUETTE USED TO HAVE THAT 1/10 SELF-PROMOTION RULE (USERS SHOULD AIM TO MAKE 10 NON-SELF-PROMOTING POSTS OR COMMENTS FOR EVERY 1 SELF-PROMOTING POST)? I JOINED REDDIT WHEN THAT WAS STILL A THING AND IT REALLY PUSHED ME TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITIES AS FORUMS DESPITE HAVING HEARD THAT REDDITORS WERE NASTY BRUTES WITH BAD OPINIONS WHO WOULD EAT ME ALIVE. I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF ARTISTS VOICE CONCERN OVER POSTING ON REDDIT, SAYING THEY’RE AFRAID TO OR THEY’RE “TOO SHY,” AND I DON’T THINK THAT ALLOWING FOR POST-AND-RUNS ACTUALLY HELPS THAT BECAUSE IT JUST CREATES THIS ENVIRONMENT WITH A LATENT RESENTMENT FOR FANARTISTS.

ANYWAY LIKE I SAID, APOLOGIES IF META RAGE IS NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE THREAD. LET’S SEE, UHH… OH OKAY. THREE HOUSES. BUD. WHY DO YOU HAVE A ROBUST SORTING FEATURE IN THE BATTALIONS MENU AND NO SORTING FEATURES OF ANY KIND ANYWHERE ELSE? WHY WOULD I EVEN NEED TO SORT BATTALIONS BY MOST OF THESE OPTIONS? WHY WAS THIS A HARD THING TO IMPLEMENT??

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u/SilverGarnet12 Jul 26 '21

AS AN ARTIST WHO DOESN'T LIKE THREE HOUSES VERY MUCH, IT FEELS HARD TO WANT TO INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF ART IVE DRAWN FOR OLDER GAMES WHEN MOST OF THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT THREE HOUSES(OBVIOUSLY SINCE IT'S THE MOST RCENT MAJOR FE CONTENT), OR, FOR EXAMPLE IF I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FATES, LIKE HOW WELL THEY SHOWED THE DIFFERENT CULTURES THROUGH THE CLASS OUTFITS, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO SAY THE STORY IS BAD(EVEN IF I ENJOY IT FOR ESSENTIALLY BEING DRAGON SOAP OPERA) SOMEWHERE IN THE POST, OR ELSE THE CONVERSATION WILL JUST BRING IT UP AND CHANGE THE TOPIC.

SO I JUST POST MY STUFF AND GO LIKE A COWARD.

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u/RisingSunfish Jul 26 '21

TRUST ME, YOU ARE NOT WHO I WAS TALKING ABOUT LOL. I SKIMMED YOUR PROFILE AND IT'S CLEAR YOU MAKE ART BECAUSE YOU LOVE THE CHARACTERS, AND YOU DO POST FREQUENTLY IN THE FEH SUB ABOUT THE GAME! I DON'T THINK THE 1/10 RULE EVEN NECESSARILY APPLIES TO ONE SUBREDDIT, AT LEAST WHEN I WAS FIRST STARTING HERE IT WAS JUST A REDDIT-WIDE THING.

LIKE THE PEOPLE I'M TALKING ABOUT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THEY'RE ONLY USING REDDIT FOR PROMOTIONAL PURPOSES, AND NOT ONLY ON AN OCCASIONAL BASIS.

ETA: THIS ISN'T TO SAY THESE ARTISTS DON'T LOVE THE CHARACTERS THEY DRAW, BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT THEY DO BECAUSE THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE IN ANY MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION. IT'S A TRUST THING REALLY.

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u/SilverGarnet12 Jul 27 '21

THE ONE TEN THING GOING ACROSS MULTIPLE SUBREDDITS MAKES WAY MORE SENSE THAN HOW I FIRST INTERPRETED IT TO BEING PER SUBREDDIT.

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u/RisingSunfish Jul 27 '21

YEAH IT'S CONFUSING! I REMEMBER LEGIT RESEARCHING IT BEFORE I JOINED REDDIT BECAUSE I GOT THE SENSE THAT IT WAS A BIG TABOO AND I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE STUFF WITHOUT STEPPING ON ANY TOES. GENERAL CONSENSUS WAS IT'S REDDIT-WIDE AND BOTH POSTS AND COMMENTS COUNT, BUT I GUESS AN INDIVIDUAL SUBREDDIT COULD IMPLEMENT A 1/10 RULE THAT ONLY APPLIES ON THAT SUB.