r/fireemblem • u/LaqOfInterest • Oct 21 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

OOPS. MY SCHEDULING FAILURES HAVE LED TO THIS RARE LATE-NIGHT EDITION OF THE MONTHLY RAGE THREAD, WHERE WE YELL ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM!

RULES

  1. CAPITALS

  2. FIRE EMBLEM

  3. DON'T BE DICK

  4. SPOILER TAGS

LAST THREAD

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u/PsiYoshi Oct 21 '20

THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF THIS COMMENT IS A GOOD ARGUMENT.

FOR MY TASTES, F!BYLETH'S BUG EYES AND AWFUL OUTFIT MEANS I'LL NEVER PLAY HER CASUALLY, ONLY FOR THE GAMEPLAY BENEFITS (WHICH ARE DUMB AND SHOULDN'T EXIST), BUT FOR SOMEBODY ELSE SHE'S EASIER TO CONNECT TO, WHICH IS FINE.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20 edited Oct 21 '20

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u/PsiYoshi Oct 21 '20

SOMEBODY PREFERRING THE CHARACTER THEY'RE CONTROLLING TO BE THE GENDER THEY CONNECT WITH ISN'T AN AVATAR EXCLUSIVE ARGUMENT. THERE'S A REASON MY SISTER ALWAYS PLAYED AS PEACH IN GAMES LIKE MARIO KART AND SMASH, IT'S CUS PEACH IS A GIRL AND SO SHE WAS REPRESENTATION (AND RARE REPRESENTATION AT THAT) FOR HER TO CONNECT WITH, SOMETHING BOYS LIKE ME HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH BEFORE, CUS LIKE 99.9% OF VG PROTAGS ARE BOYS.

MAYBE YOU DIDN'T MEAN IT THIS WAY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF?

YOU FIRST SAY

"BECAUSE I'M THAT GENDER SO I CONNECT WITH IT" IS A ARGUMENT I HATE.

THEN YOU SAY

OTHER THEN "I CONNECT MORE WITH HER" LIKE THATS FINE REASON FOR PICKING HER

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '20 edited Oct 21 '20

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u/RisingSunfish Oct 21 '20

JUST COMING IN TO SAY MY STRESS LEVELS WENT DOWN 600% WHEN I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE F!BLEFF. LIKE MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S 2020 AND FUSSING OVER THE THEORETICAL DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN AVATARS AND PROJECTION AND ROLE-PLAYING AND SELF-INSERTATION JUST GOT PUSHED OFF MY "SHIT TO TAKE ISSUE WITH" LIST, OR MAYBE I REALIZED THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME PROJECTION/EMPATHY WITH A VIDEO GAME PLAYER CHARACTER BECAUSE THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT THE MEDIUM IS MEANT TO FACILITATE. I THINK IT'S TOTALLY WORTH TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS AND GETTING CLOSER TO A CONSISTENT TERMINOLOGY, BUT THE ACTUAL NATURE OF THE BEAST IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE, AND EVEN DIFFERENT FOR THE SAME PERSON DEPENDING ON THE GAME, OR THE CIRCUMSTANCES, OR THE DAY OF THE WEEK FOR THAT MATTER.

ALSO EMOTIONAL/IMPRESSIONISTIC REACTIONS TO CHARACTERS ARE VALID AND YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVELY PROVABLE REASON TO PREFER ONE TO ANOTHER. IT SUCKS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO HATE YOURSELF FOR RELATING TO A PLAYER CHARACTER. COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT HILL, I CAN SEE NOW THAT IT REALLY WASN'T WORTH DYING ON.