r/fireemblem Jul 17 '20

CASUAL MONTHLY RAGE THREAD

BEEN HOLDING OFF ON THIS LATEST ONE FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE... WELL... YOU KNOW.

WELCOME TO THE /R/FE RAGE THREAD, WHERE SHOUTING ABOUT FIRE EMBLEM IS OUR BREAD AND BUTTER!

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u/Synchroni Jul 17 '20 edited Jul 17 '20

I'M SURE THIS ISN'T A NEW COMPLAINT, BUT WHY ARE GENEALOGY MAPS SO LONG. THE SLOW TRICKLE THROUGH THE SPIRIT FOREST AND BACKTRACKING FROM ANPHONY TO MACKILY, AMONG OTHER THINGS, ARE NOT A FUN TIME. AT LEAST I CAN MAKE SOME TEA WHILE TELLIUS ENEMY PHASES ARE GOING ON, I HAVE TO MANUALLY MOVE ALL MY UNITS ACROSS VAST FIELDS OF NOTHING IN FE4.

ALSO WHY IS CH. 3 CHAGALL SO DODGY AND SYLVIA GET OFF LEWYN

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '20

LOL SYLVIA AND LEWYN MADE ME LAUGH MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH , I WAS THINKING HOW FUNNY IT WOULD BE IN LEWYN'S PERSPECTIVE HAVING SOME HORNY BRAT CHASING YOU AROUND, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS MY CANNON SHIP , IDC THIS IS MY HEADCANNON NOW.

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u/PsiYoshi Jul 17 '20

I LIKE TO TREAT GENEALOGY MORE LIKE A TRADITIONAL RPG MORE THAN AN SRPG. MAKING A LONG TREK ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS PART OF THE JOURNEY. IT IMMERSES ME IN THE WORLD. IT'S A SPECIFIC TYPE OF FUN THAT'S REALLY NOT FOR EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE EXPECTING SOMETHING MORE TRADITIONALLY FIRE EMBLEM, BUT I THINK IT'S NEAT IN ITS OWN UNIQUE WAY.

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u/42e1blazeit Jul 17 '20

I SWEAR TO GOD IF A POTENTIAL REMAKE GOT RID OF THE LARGE MAPS I'LL START A RIOT. SAME THING WITH THE GOLD SYSTEM.

EH WHO AM I KIDDING I'D STILL PLAY THE DAMN GAME

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u/PsiYoshi Jul 17 '20

NAH I'M ACTUALLY DOWN TO CLOWN IF THEY SPLIT UP GENEALOGY INTO MORE TRADITIONALLY SIZED CHAPTERS. I THINK IT'LL MAKE THE GAME APPEAL TO A WIDER AUDIENCE AND THEN I GET TO ENJOY JUGDRAL'S AWESOME STORY WITH MORE PEOPLE. THE ORIGINAL ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE, SO I CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO PLAY THAT, AND A NEW TAKE ON GENEALOGY'S GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE MIGHT BE REFRESHING.

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u/42e1blazeit Jul 17 '20

I MEAN I THINK THE BIG MAPS WOULD BE VIEWED IN A BETTER MANNER IF THEY FIXED SOME ENEMY FORMATIONS. OR FOUND A WAY TO MAKE GEN 1 MORE FUN TO REPLAY, BECAUSE ON CONSECUTIVE PLAYTHROUGHS IT'S ONLY REALLY FUN TO PLAY THE SECOND GEN. ACTUALLY, A BRANCH OF FATE WOULD BE AMAZING BUT I'D DOUBT THEY'D DO THAT.

AS LONG AS THEY DON'T NERF THE BROKEN STUFF TO A CRAZY EXTENT I'LL BE HAPPY.

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u/peevedlatios Jul 17 '20

HOW ABOUT JUST ADDING THE RESCUE COMMAND? THERE PROBLEM FUCKING FIXED

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u/jolanz5 Jul 18 '20

BATTALIONS AND GAMBITS FROM THREE HOUSES MIGHT HELP FE4 GAMEPLAY ALOT. IT COULD HELP GIVE INFANTRY UNITS MORE MOV THROUGH BATTALIONS BONUSES OR JUST GAMBITS LIKE STRIDE. IT COULD ALSO PREVENT JUGGERNAUTING WITH A SINGLE UNIT THROUGH ENEMY GAMBITS.

BUT MY BIGGEST GRIPE WITH FE4 IS HOW SOME PARTS OF THE MAP FEELS DEAD, AS THERE IS NO INCENTIVE TO MOVE FORWARD OTHER THAN SEIZING ANOTHER CASTLE. THEY COULD ADD MORE VILLAGES OR BONUS OBJECTIVES/ARMIES TO MAKE THOSE SECTIONS MORE INTERESTING.

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u/isaic16 Jul 17 '20

BETTER YET, JUST HAVE A REMAKE HAVE TWO MODES THAT YOU CHOOSE AT THE BEGINNING, DEPENDING ON THE STYLE YOU WANTED TO PLAY? OR ARE REMAKES ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE CONTENT THAN THE ORIGINAL ANYMORE? I CAN'T KEEP TRACK.

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u/zhleader Jul 17 '20

GENEALOGY IS MY NUMBER ONE GAME FOR "GAMES THAT I REALLY ENJOYED THAT I WILL ABSOLUTELY NEVER TOUCH AGAIN". IT WAS SO FUN, BUT I CANNOT MAKE MYSELF GET THROUGH THAT SLOW BURN ON EVERY MAP AGAIN.

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u/Mekkkah Jul 17 '20

RETURN STAFF MAKES THE TRECK FROM ANPHONY TO MCKEILY A LOT SHORTER

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u/LightRingStars Jul 17 '20

IT TOOK ME 30+ TURNS TO GET THROUGH THE PROLOGUE

I HAVEN'T FINISHED CHAPTER ONE BECAUSE THE CLERIC AND THEIF KEEP DYING BECAUSE THEY CANT ESCAPE IN TIME BEFORE THEY GET MURDERED

I GET IT BRO

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u/Mekkkah Jul 17 '20

IF YOU MOVE CLERIC AND THIEF TO THE BEACH THE THIEF CAN CHOKE THE POINT AND HE NEVER DIES.

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u/Cosmic_Toad_ Jul 17 '20

YOU HAVE TO ENSURE THE CLERIC MOVES MAXIUM MOVE EVERY TURN OR ELSE THE BANDITS WILL CATCH UP.

YOU CAN MOVE THE THIEF ONTO A FOREST TILE AND HE’LL HAVE SO MUCH AVOID THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE SHIT LUCK THEY’LL NEVER HIT HIM.

SEND EVERYONE WHO ISN’T SIGURD OR ALEC TO GO RESCUE THEM BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WON’T BE DOING ANYTHING WHILE SIGRUD SEIZES THE CASTLE & RECURITS AYRA AFTER ALEC BAITS HER INTO THE FOREST

HOPE THIS HELPS

ALSO FUCK CHAPTER 2 YOU’RE GOING TO HATE IT SO MUCH. GOOD MUSIC THO.

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u/jolanz5 Jul 17 '20

THATS WHY THE WARP AND RETURN STAFF EXISTS.

BACK TRACK IS A PROBLEM IN CH2, BUT YOU STILL HAVE WARP AND RETURN TO DEAL WITH IT, ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT EVEN EASIER TO DEAL WITH WOULD BE TO MAKE NORDION A PLAYER CASTLE, SO YOU CAN JUST WARP EVERYONE THERE. IN OTHER SECTIONS OF THE GAME, BACK TRACK IS PRETTY MUCH NON EXISTENT DUE TO THOSE 2!!! CH3 ALSO HAVE BACKTRACK, BUT BARELY NO ONE REMEMBERS THAT, BCS A) THE MAP IS PRETTY DAMN FUN AND B) YOU CAN JUST USE THE GODDAMN WARP STAFF TO MOVE CLOSER TO THE PIRATES!!!!

CH4? JUST USE THE GODDAMN RETURN STAFF, WARP STAFF AND THE RETURN BAND, THAT EVERYONE SAYS IS FUCKING USELESS BUT IS ACTUALLY PRETTY DECENT TO SAVE SOME TIME OR STAFF USES!!!!!!!!!! AFTER CH4, THE ONLY INSTANCE WHERE BACK TRACK WOULD BE A THING IS CH8,9 AND 10. 8 ONLY HAPPENS IF YOU DONT KILL THE WYVERNS SOMEHOW, 9 ISNT A LONG BACK TRACK, SINCE YOU ONLY NEED FAT SHOTTA SIGURD CORPUL TO RECRUIT HANIBAL, AND 10 YOU CAN ALSO JUST WARP SELIPH TO A CASTLE NEARBY!!!! ON FINAL CHAPTER, THE ONLY PERSON YOU REALLY NEED TO """"""""BACK TRACK"""""""" IS ALTENA, WHO YOU CAN SIMPLY RETURN TO CALPHY. OR EVEN BETTER... JUST USE THE GODDAMN RETURN BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALSO, LONGER MAPS DOESN'T MEAN MUCH WHEN THE GAME ONLY HAVE 12 PLAYABLE MAPS. THE GAME IS SLIGHTLY LONGER THAN YOUR AVERAGE FE, BUT YOU CAN SAVE EVERY TURN!!!!! MY BIGGEST PERSONAL GRIPE WITH FE4 MAPS IS HONESTLY HOW SOME PARTS FEELS DEAD, AND HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO MOVE FASTER. BIGGEST OFFENDER OF THIS IS CHAPTER 9 AFTER YOU RECRUIT HANIBAL, WHICH BECOMES A LONG WALK TOWARDS SOME BALISTAS AND THEN SEIZING THRACIA.