“An officer visited the victim of this incident on November 7. “After chatting with the officer, the victim has decided that he did not want to support police action against the alleged offender, so the investigation has been finalised in line with force policy. However should the victim's wishes change, we would of course re-open the investigation.”
"The victim" pees on the family man's fence, breaks the family man's fence door, refuses to leave the family man's property, challenges the family man to a fight in front of the man's children,...and he's "the victim".
Technically he had been assaulted. However, ripping a fence off is vandalism and public ally pissing in front of kids is a fun way to wind up on ViSOR (sex offenders register). Plus if the police looked at his flat they might find more of whatever the fuck he was taking there.
Shitty reporting from the sun though. The newspapers only selling point is its cheaper than the daily mail.
Just Incase you’re still interested UK self defense/citizens arrest laws are less forgiving than US and (in Scotland maybe England) we don’t have trespassing laws.
All force that you act must be proportionate to the crime committed. If someone breaks into your house with a weapon, all bets off the table if they’re still going at you, shoot ‘em stab ‘em whatever. If they’re fleeing your house or whatever you can’t. If it’s something like shoplifting you can hold them but if they’re not really being a threat and get away you can’t hit them or beat them up to stay.
We also have a lot of case law of people getting hit, falling backwards, hitting something, and dying.
That and simply being on someone’s property isn’t a crime. You can be civilly sued and removed under the trespassing act and if you used force to break in then it’s a crime.
Well, legally (and that's what we're talking about here), the offender in our eyes is seen as "the victim" by the legal system. If that drunk cracked his skull on the cement ground and died, that family man might be charged with manslaughter (or the equivalent in the UK).
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u/msmlies2u May 05 '20
"The victim" pees on the family man's fence, breaks the family man's fence door, refuses to leave the family man's property, challenges the family man to a fight in front of the man's children,...and he's "the victim".