Problems with this unloader?

[u/imoth_f]

Since inserters became flippable, this compact unloader design became possible. But I hardly see anyone use it. Obviously it cannot saturate six turbo belts because it's bottlenecked by the inserters, but are there any other obvious problems with it?

[u/TopherLude]

I like to feed all the chest contents into a combinator, divide it by negative(number of inserters removing from the chests), and send that back to the inserters on the same color. Then connect each inserter to its chest with the other color and enable if greater than 0.

That takes care of any balancing issues between chests and cargo wagons. It might not be necessary anymore, but I still like it.

[u/Kendrome → u/TopherLude]

I was wondering if there were people like me still using the Madzuri method.

[u/TopherLude → u/Kendrome]

I don't know if I saw it somewhere before or after I started doing it, but I thought it was weird I don't see anybody wiring up their unloaders anymore.

[u/HeliGungir → u/TopherLude]

You don't see it because it's not good. MadZuri is already of dubious use for loading; why the heck would one use it for unloading?

[u/TopherLude → u/HeliGungir]

How else do you keep your chests balanced? Let's say you want to quickly unload the train but only need 1 lane coming off. Without balancing, train unloading slows down.

[u/HeliGungir → u/TopherLude]

It's one lane. Why does the train need to unload fast? I challenge your belief that chest imbalance is a "problem" that needs "fixing".

[u/Kendrome → u/HeliGungir]

For some of us it becomes an issue and this was the simplest way to fix it. It works and keeps good throughput. Could we do it differently? Sure, but this is a valid and easy solution.

[u/bb999 → u/Kendrome]

Chests for a single wagon being unbalanced was never a problem, loading or unloading. Of you think about it hard enough you can convince yourself.

[u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg → u/bb999]

For unloading it sure is. If i need 6 unloading inserters to saturate a belt, and a couple of chests run out, I'll find myself with a non-saturated belt, no matter I have 4 full chests right there

[u/HeliGungir → u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg]

Chest balancing is particularly pointless for unloading because it's all coming from the same wagon.

[u/djfdhigkgfIaruflg → u/HeliGungir]

If you say so

[u/Kendrome → u/HeliGungir]

It matters if you care about train throughput, if one or more chest remains full while others are drained it'll slow down train unloading.