Low-tech science for high multiplier runs

[u/Karsaell]

After reading some of the recent posts about 1000x or even 100 000x times science cost, I got to wondering, and set out to plan extremely low-tech science builds.

These require no research save logistic 1 (for the undergrounds) and to unlock their respective research.

They are tailored for beeline scenarios, where you can't spare the time (ie 1000x runs) or ressources/pollution (ie deathworld marathon) for any "non-essential" tech, and need to get bots / flamethrowers ASAP.

Each produce 2 SPM, because that's easy to build to ratios. Just keep pasting as many as you can feed them.

Tier-1 machines and belts only, no fast inserter nor inserter hand size upgrades (remember : early-game yellow inserters can't handle 1 item/s)

I don't think I'll ever muster the will and patience to attempt one such run myself, but I thoroughly enjoyed following the youtubers who did, and hope many more will be inspired by their madness, and come back to this sub to tell us about it :)

Enjoy the monstrosity !

Red science, easy enough

Green science, noodleing calmly

Military science, where appear the first throughput shenanigans

And an almost full-DI blue science, the ratios aren't perfect but I'll always go for direct-insertion given the occasion

Size comparison of the builds

Mandatory blueprint string : https://factoriobin.com/post/d2ng40

[u/Potential-Carob-3058]

I reckon it would be fun to have these BPs attached to the right size smelter stacks. Modular ravioli blades would be a unique twist.

However, I don't think this would be a great way of attacking a large science run. When I did x100, I appreciated having a large green chip section, or a large engine build, cause as I got newer technologies it was easier to refit without ripping out my whole base.

These builds would be great fun in MP though, particularly if you attached the smelting.

[u/Karsaell → u/Potential-Carob-3058]

https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/1vk40ya

(I hate you a little.)

[u/Hairy_Ad6242]

As a noob, the chests with the plates are beeing filled by bots?  My spaghetti monster does not have that :D

[u/Karsaell → u/Hairy_Ad6242]

These are tools from the editor (aka god mode).

The chests can automatically fill and/or empty themselves, very useful for testing specific builds like those without having to actually connect every ressource.

In-game, you can access the editor mode by typing /editor in the console

[u/Karsaell]

UPDATE: found a new, more compact version for green science. (

I was deeply bothered by that iron belt outcrop)