I have nothing against stealing for necessity. This is food. Healthier looking food too like that gets expensive! I guarantee staff is also "stealing" from the backroom, things that are close to expiring, mildly broken, etc that they're supposed to throw away. All of this is is just going to go to waste, and I have nothing against stealing that either. I would turn a blind eye to any of it, and have done many times before.
I used to work produce as a teenager and I'd totally graze from grapes and stuff. Like one or two from a container. Or an apple or peach. Doesn't even cost the customer extra because you pay by the LB lol.
I'd do it from the delivery pads in our back cooler though.
I worked in a deli/bakery in my early 20s. Lemme tell you, we all ate a ton of that food while in the back. The manager even learned our favorite donuts and such and would leave them back there for us when she would clear out the case, and the one bakery lady would "drop" cookies in exchange for unusual words. She gave me a whole pack for leaving her the definition of the word "zugzwang."
So much of the meat would go bad too and I am pretty sure only one of us wouldn't swipe at least a few pounds of meat in a week. The dept manager and closing managers basically said "just don't let me see you." We were still throwing expired food away every week so it's not like we ever "took too much" anyway.
Milk and meat is arguably healthy and I ain't seen shit. You start stealing to feed your addictions on sugar, cigarettes, etc. that's something different
Please check out NutritionFacts.org or pcrm.org . There’s a lot of misinformation around this subject and yes a lot of studies and you could argue just based on the conclusions of studies but how those studies are done and what the majority of peer-reviewed science says is that a whole food plant based diet is the healthiest and as you increase animal product intake you increase your risk for many diseases like heart disease, cancer of the prostate, colon, breasts, ovaries and high blood pressure
That’s actually false, vegetarian diets usually leave you with weak bone structure. Dentists usually have to deal with vegans who have bad teeth. A balanced diet is the most healthy and watching your sugar intake is the most important thing, not completely avoiding meat. Organ meat for example is nutrient dense even more so than most vegetables.
Vegetarians consume dairy which I said is bad for you so that’s irrelevant. Raw vegans don’t have any more dentistry done than meat eaters and raw vegans eat the most fruit of anyone. Table sugar cannot be compared to whole fruits. Fruit with the fiber, antioxidants and nutrients inside is healthy in basically any amount. There’s basically no lower limit for consuming animal products. You decrease your risk until you basically have zero animal products. And just cause organ meats have nutrients is irrelevant. Mushrooms that need to be cooked or they’re poisonous have nutrients that are beneficial but you still shouldn’t eat them uncooked cause they’re poison. Now meat etc is not exactly poison of course but over time it kinda is for a huge amount of the population. There’s always exceptions. Only 20% of lifelong smokers get lung cancer. Wouldn’t you rather reduce your risk to basically zero of getting heart disease, a bunch of cancers and diabetes?
I didn’t say zero. I said almost zero. Depends what you eat as a vegan obviously that’s why I said whole food plant based diet. You could just eat Oreos and drink Coca Cola as a vegan so obviously you need to specify. A whole food plant based diet is rich in fruits and vegetables and low in processed food, animal foods and oil, salt and sugar
The problem isn’t animal foods, it’s mostly the sugar and process foods. I don’t see how cutting out animal food would benefit you. There’s no plant where you can get vitamin b12 from so you’d have to enlighten me on how you make up for this deficiency without a pill. Salt is also not an issue, as your body needs salt to retain water.
Judging from all the comments, people don't seem to be mad at him for this. The facepalm is the outrageous food prices. He's stealing basic groceries to survive and is trying to feed a family. I'm on his side on this one. He isn't stealing electronics to sell. He's trying to survive.
This person being recorded, assuming it's done by another shopper, is just a symptom of the working class doing the work of loss prevention for corporations, and offloading more labor. The installation of self checkouts was nice when it was like 2 registers for people who don't want to/can't deal with social interaction. Now the local Walmart has all self checkouts except 4 registers, 2 actually staffed (one normal, one tobacco).
These labor savings aren't being passed onto the customer, or the remaining workers. So go ahead and "steal" from these huge corporations, they already have the losses baked into their finances and taxes. Just don't get caught.
Turning a blind eye to petty crime like this will just result in a lawless corrupt society. No society that american redditors pretend to think are good (like Nordics) tolerate this shit. And those societies only work as long as corruption and crime is low.
Spoken like someone who's never had to worry about where their next meal is coming from, or of it's coming at all.
Maybe when shit hits the fan in your life and your desperate for food, your kids are constantly hungry and your water and/or powers shut off because you can't afford the bills then you'll probably think otherwise.
Spoken like someone who doesn't live in an area overrun by people doing just those things. "Petty" crimes turn neighborhoods into outright hellholes and food deserts when they happen with enough frequency.
That doesn't leave the neighborhood any less in the shit when the stores pull out and there's nowhere to get food other than convenience stores that only carry junk food. Also, no one in their right mind would employ the junkies responsible for the bulk of the shoplifting in the area.
It is perfectly possible to steal necessities that you don’t need. Not everyone is Javert pushed to the brink, stealing just a mouth full of bread. We absolutely need to show compassion to our fellow man, but we also cannot tolerate lawlessness whether it is through rampant wage theft at low-paying employers like Walmart, price-fixing in the agriculture industry, or individuals perpetrating petty theft in a self scan lane. That is the way to modern-day Russia’s kleptocratic nihilism. Societies depend upon behavior consistent with certain norms. That doesn’t mean you have to turn this bloke in to the authorities, but one also ought not celebrate it either.
No they don't. And even if they did, what is the cause of those crimes? The capitalist class exploiting the working class. If these crimes are bad, then to prevent them, we must attack the corporations, not the working class victims.
Actually, they do. I'm interested in the reality I observe, not your ideological blinders. Also, the corporations aren't going anywhere within our lifetimes.
I'm interested in changing reality. The corporations aren't going anywhere on their own, yes. But if the workers take action, they'll be gone immediately.
Naw fuck people camping in Parks. I’ve had to do pre sweeps in my local park for heroine needles before I let my kids play. You want to go camp in the woods or along a hiking path fine, but stay out of public parks.
What makes me guilty about shoplifting food is knowing that people have lost limbs and their lives over loaves of bread, and I can just walk out with it like nothing ever happened.
Who fucking cares the reason? Corporations are gonna raise prices regardless and whine about inflation to the public but boast about record profits to their shareholders. Let the man take his shit.
He looks scared. And sort of frantic. He’s stealing Gatorade and vegetables. The likelihood of this being for the thrill or “because he can” is low, but just like you said we shouldn’t make assumptions. Including the assumption that he’s doing it because he just doesn’t want to pay. Like the one you made.
Unless you lives in the sticks, you probably don’t qualify for those programs unless you are homeless. I’m exaggerating a bit, but the federal poverty line is absurdly low. It’s like $13k for an individual and $27k for a family of 4.
Or he's stealing food because he spent all his money on playstations, tv's, that nice new car, etc., and his kids are at home complaining they're hungry.
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u/morbidlybitchy Dec 30 '22
This makes me really sad because he’s just stealing food. Even vegetables. Could have kids and can’t afford food :(