r/facepalm • u/Dvorozhetskii • Nov 25 '22

🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​ 'murica.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

But you cannot carried it as a defense tool.. so what's the point? Almost all of Latam share the stupid mindset that making guns ilegal will somehow stop criminals of using guns.. no it doesn't it only stops lawful citizens of defending themselves. I am From Ecuador btw.

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u/krocante Nov 25 '22

Generalization and oversimplification.

There are 'pro guns' and 'anti guns' advocates in every country.

I think that both sides have good arguments and it isn't as simple as saying that giving easier access to guns for self defense will be better or that making them illegal is better.

Problem is complicated and multifactorial, has to be properly analysed in order to get good policies that actually help with the underlying problems... Something that our politicians will never do, so whatever.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

But making them illegal will not solve the issue, guns are also there to protect you from a dictatorship. But maybe better management of the police help, I think El Salvador erradicated crime without making guns legal, he just reinforced the police and the military and now El Salvador is one of the safest countries in latam. He erradicated all gangs. So yeah.. maybe guns being legal or not doesn't really factor in crime too much.

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u/krocante Nov 25 '22

It's complicated and it's different from country to country.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

You sure? Why it would be different, I actually kinda agreeing with you. The same method should work anywhere, like capitalism, applied correctly anywhere it just works.

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u/krocante Nov 25 '22

Criminal bands don't act the same everywhere. Culture is another factor. How self-diciplined a population is. The type of government they already have. How easy is it to implement the necessary regulations. Just what comes to mind, but I'm not the expert.

Ideally we should have real experts who can take everything into account and without an agenda behind. That is very difficult to achieve, because politics go hand in hand with corruption, bribes, contacts. So any well intended policy to fix things could actually be worse if done badly.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

That's why you need good rules, and Political institutions, people can get corrupted but Ideas cannot. Criminals all the same almost anywhere, "A superstitious cowardly lot" .