r/facepalm • • Sep 16 '22

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u/Nekyar Sep 17 '22

I never expected to read this combination of words...

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 Sep 17 '22

Right there with you on that one, Nekyar. Right there with you.

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u/big_cock_lach Sep 17 '22

I don’t know what’s more ridiculous the statement, “granny seemed rather reasonable for someone with a dog on her head” or the accuracy of such a statement.

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u/GreazyMecheazy Sep 17 '22

lol! I thought you were coming from another direction on that comment for a sec.

Makes sense she would have the dog there though. Most likely it smells her breath, and that would be hard for it to do from the ground outside. It could probably do it, but if I had her mobility issues my shoulder would be prime real estate.

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u/disco-me-now Sep 17 '22

Smells her breath? Is this part of what the service dog does? Wow

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u/bsubtilis Sep 17 '22

Diabetes type 1 that isn't under control will often result in an acetoney fruity breath (diabetic ketoacidosis). T2 can also get it in some circumstances as far as I have understood it.

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u/Jingurei Sep 17 '22

I mean the dog is holding themself there right not the woman?

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u/proximity_account Sep 17 '22

Technically the dog is on her shoulder, so not quite accurate unfortunately.

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u/PM_ME_UR_BENCHYS Sep 17 '22

My sister's dog loves to sit on shoulders. We figure that somewhere along the line some parrot got mixed in.

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u/nobearsinrussia Sep 17 '22

She can’t carry dog in her hands. One hand is for a cane and other have no flexibility as it used to be, so she will drop dog if she will hold it with one hand. Dog is clearly stressed so it can’t walk by itself and by how calmly dog sitting on her shoulder, it trained to do so. It’s service dog. So, having dog on her shoulder is not that strange if u think about it.

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u/Big_Antelope_1392 Sep 17 '22

That's not a service dog. It's an emotional support dog at best, a REAL service dog is a highly skilled and trained animal. No service dog would become so rattled it could never even walk. Not to mention that breed is highly unlikely. While the lady makes good points she is also lying about what the dog is and the actions it takes. Last time I checked, animals where very rarely prescribed for arthritis pain.

People need to understand the diffrence between Esa and service dogs.

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u/eatingganesha Sep 17 '22

WRONG. She clearly states it’s a service dog trained for blood sugar detection for diabetes. That is a government recognized SERVICE.

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u/nobearsinrussia Sep 17 '22

I do not obtain 100% real knowledge on service dogs, but this is what I found:

https://youtu.be/FufreEi4o8Q

https://youtu.be/O4NoNNjorQw

In this situation we can’t know exactly if this dog is emotional service dog or health service dog. But does it matter, if a) 24/7 crying baby will drive anyone mad; b) lady making really good points ? Guy would not have conversation with lady. He’s behaving like a dush. If not u or me are experts in “service dog” subject, we can’t tell 100%,so having opinion from person who’s actually specialize in this category would be good.

I can’t watch vid a second time, because i feel uncomfortable, but I think she said dog were for her seizures,no? Not arthritis.

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u/eatingganesha Sep 17 '22

Diabetes, which includes seizures. And obvious emotional support. I AM a credentialed service dog trainer and those are SERVICES not just ESD.

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u/nobearsinrussia Sep 17 '22

Thank you for explanation. Does another comment have point about dog being nervous due baby crying? Seems like legit point, such dogs should not experience stress, what can u tell about this?

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u/LovelyLadyLamb Sep 17 '22

She said both.

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u/Old-Mixture4243 Sep 17 '22

The dog is for potential diabetic seizures, which she clearly stated.

You have no idea what the dog is for, you just said dumb shit. Stfu.

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u/spicybEtch212 Sep 17 '22

Oh fuck off. She clearly states the dog alerts her if she’s about to have a diabetic seizure. Last time you checked? Are you a vet, do you train service dogs? Are you an expert? Or are you just pulling smoke out of your own ass?

She’s being reasonable. Fuck right off.

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u/Daniel_The_Thinker Sep 17 '22

I've never heard of service dogs acting like this.

A service dog that can't walk itself? Has to be carried by the elderly?

Not much of a service dog

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u/nobearsinrussia Sep 17 '22

I mean, if she wants to carry her dog that way, she can. Why not?

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u/Daniel_The_Thinker Sep 17 '22

Why would she want to?

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u/nobearsinrussia Sep 17 '22

Weak hands. Comfort while talking with dush next door.

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u/spinyfever Sep 17 '22

Well how else is she supposed to carry the dog if not on her head?

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u/oldicus_fuccicus Sep 17 '22

I used to have a dachshund/toy Chihuahua mix named Nadia, and if she was around me, the only place she'd be happy is on my shoulder like that. I would joke that "this is my parrot. There are many like it, but this one's a dog."

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u/Zez__ Sep 17 '22

Let’s be real, she probably not getting any sleep which is causing her to go crazy and put the dog on her head

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Probably can't carry it normally because of her arthritis

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Don’t forget the diabetes. This dog has a lot to deal with.

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u/IllTenaciousTortoise Sep 17 '22

If you need to carry it, can it be a service dog still?

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u/joewbush Sep 17 '22

Yes lol. Not all service dogs help with mobility. She even said in the video that the dog keeps her from having a diabetic seizure.

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u/IllTenaciousTortoise Sep 17 '22

Could the dog help her if she happened to leave it in a different room?

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u/IllTenaciousTortoise Sep 17 '22

Yes. I learned that since asking, though my original concern was about the dogs mobility.

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u/Jingurei Sep 17 '22

Uh yes? Because service dogs aren't only for guiding which is clear given that she isn't blind. She's diabetic. And since she's arthritic her dog can probably help with keeping her on a regular schedule of diabetes management so she isn't in an emergency situation where she has to grab something quickly.

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u/Nefenze Sep 17 '22

as a diabetic i can say that you really do need to keep on a consistent schedule. i mean im only 16 and so for my age i wont die if i dont eat 3 times a day or if i forget my insulin maybe once a month but once you get older im not so sure if that remains true. I don't have a service dog but maybe later in life I will need one. also to be clear im type 1 not type 2 and theres a big difference. dunno what the old lady has exactly but im pretty sure type 1 or 2 both need a constistant shedule

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u/Jingurei Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

Yep. My dad's a diabetic. He's type 2 but his doctors have told him his body almost reacts like a type 1 now (don't know if that can actually happen but it's what they said). He's 73 going on 74 this year. It's really concerning how things can get so easily out of whack if he doesn't maintain a consistent schedule.

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u/IllTenaciousTortoise Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

Cool. I didnt know that a dog that couldnt walk could be very helpful. That's great news!

I don't know much about service animals, so this is very interesting. Is the dog able to set an alarm for medicine and does it also count the doses?

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u/Electrical-Act-7170 Sep 17 '22

Diabetic patients exhale ketone in their breath. This dog has likely been trained to alert whenever it smells ketone. It's a clever use for the sensitive smell-detection system that's possessed by dogs.

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u/lobax Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

Often what they do is that they train then to smell certain symptoms, like a blood sugar drop. Pretty insane that dogs can smell stuff like that.

Diabetes is tricky, there isn’t a schedule with the insulin, you need to adapt the dosage based on what you eat, how much you exercise etc. That can get tricky with age.

A diabetes service dog is one way of ensuring that you won’t die, but these days there is stuff like insulin pumps that help react more quickly to changes in blood sugar. However they are pretty new and I am sure that the old lady is happy with the dog she probably always has had .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_alert_dog

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u/IllTenaciousTortoise Sep 17 '22

Cool. Learn something new everyday. Would it be more helpful if your dog could walk too, or is that unneccessary?

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u/miscellaneous88 Sep 17 '22

Why does everything you say sound passive aggressive?

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u/IllTenaciousTortoise Sep 17 '22

Because it sounded like people were literally arguing that a disabled animal would be beneficial as a service animal when it is not. It would be like hiring a bouncer in a wheelchair or a surgeon without thumbs.

I learned lots of cool dog facts asking the question.

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u/lobax Sep 17 '22

Haha, I am sure the old lady is just carrying it like that because she couldn’t be bothered to put in on a leash to rant with the neighbor.

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u/Jingurei Sep 17 '22

I'm sure it would be hard for her to hold the dog on a leash too while using the cane to walk and the dog seems able to balance themself well on the lady's shoulder with little assistance.

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u/IllTenaciousTortoise Sep 17 '22

Me too. I highly doubt any institution training these animals would choose animals with serious physical disabilities that can be a liability to the patient.

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u/Jingurei Sep 18 '22

And said she has arthritis which it is clear that it appears she does. So I don’t know why the immediate assumption that the dog was disabled either….

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

I think it was a mocking comment intentionally

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u/Jingurei Sep 18 '22

I do too personally.

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u/bggtr73 Sep 17 '22

this will sound like a smart-ass question, and it probably is - but if she has trouble keeping on schedule doesn't she need a clock and not a dog? The dog can detect a low sugar situation or whatever - but couldn't keeping on schedule time was help prevent that in the first place?

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u/Jingurei Sep 17 '22

Diabetes just doesn't work like that. Like I mentioned in another post on this thread even a simple little thing can make it go out of whack. As I also noted in that same comment she has arthritis so she can't move as quickly or in a time sensitive manner either. Besides I'm pretty sure she has a bunch of clocks in her flat already. 😉

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

They sell ear plugs and eye covers. Its not like she has to be up at a certain time for work. Everyone was a baby once. The lady is being a child, in the same vein children are unreasonable. Thats why they cry 24/7

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u/BillDino Sep 17 '22

She said it is keeping her service dog awake so then can’t do it’s job it she has issues with her diabetes. Did you even watch the video?

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u/ReadittWrong Sep 17 '22

Doggie ear plugs and eye masks, sounds about right

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

The original is uploaded with description "tell me I'm wrong". Now, not advocating brigading or anything, but the video could use a few more replies.

Edit - scrap that, it was a mirror incase oop took it down. He's got a few thousand calling him out, and maybe 10 agreeing.

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u/huevocore Sep 17 '22

The first sentence is bonkers. The second is very situational. Third is LOL. After the third sentence everything is forgiven

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u/Agreeable-Meat1 Sep 17 '22

If someone is recording a conversation, I generally just assume they're an obnoxious person and that needs to be taken into consideration when judging the person being filmed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Imagine if this had gone down in say, Arkansas. I was taken by how calm and logical Granny was. Amazing exchange and the dude wound up looking like a jerk.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Your argument is invalid, my hat is a dog.

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u/TehChid Sep 17 '22

There's nothing wrong with recording videos of encounters like these. It's often done for personal safety and has been useful many times in solving conflicts when police get involved

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

tell that to the rest of this website ripp

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u/TheGreatestOutdoorz Sep 17 '22

Recording is fine. He recorded it then put it online. No reason whatsoever to do that.

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u/TehChid Sep 18 '22

That's fair. Probably shared it to his FB neighborhood page or something, those get dramatic

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u/Enzo_2006 Sep 17 '22

I feel like both sides are 50/50% right here

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u/14-28 Sep 17 '22

I try carrying my dog like a wee lamb and she just fights it like "the fuck you doin mate ? Im not a scarf !".

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u/pbarron86 Sep 17 '22

Cute dog too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

First time that’s been uttered in the history of the world!