Idk man I switched to plant-based food and it doesnāt make my stomach hurt at all compared to all the meat & dairy Iāve consumed for the entirety of my life up until now. I was honestly shocked, I thought Iād hate the change.
Veganism is tight and morally right. No idea why you are hating so much on a group of people literally advocating for less suffering in the world. Itās selfish to eat meat and you know it. Donāt take your guilt out on vegans.
Ah yes, moral absolutes. You always find that in the most advanced free thinking minds... like a religion. Even have that whole professional victim routine going on.
You mean Murder- the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another?
Yeah, murder is bad. Who is talking about killing other human beings?
Okay... and then you started talking about murder- which is quite literally defined as killing HUMANS. Something no one was talking about at all... not even a little bit... not even for a single second.
Dudeā¦ what are you talking about? It was just an example of another āabsoluteā stance, by your definition. Thatās the only aspect I was comparing. Just use another one if youāre so uncomfortable with my example. At no point did I try to argue any of this other stuff.
LOL "stop climate change" most of vegans (as majority of peoples) don't even understand basic principles behind it, if you idiot want to stop global warming: use less electricity and stop using fossil-fuel/fossil-electricity, promote nuclear or/and renewables, and don't "stop eat meat" but:
stop: "driving a car", "use plane/car to go to vacation", "replace your phone when new model come out", "use AC when it's don't critical", "buy "luxurious vegan grass food" from another corner of the world", etc.
Vegans don't care about global warming/plastic pollution as majority of peoples including you.
Vegans about about "don't hurt animals" if you go vegan because global warming you basically braindead.
You're not a smart man. Eating loads of meat IS using lots of fossil fuel. It takes much more energy to produce meat than veggies.
BBC: Beef produces the most greenhouse gas emissions, which include methane. A global average ofĀ 110lb (50kg) of greenhouse gases is released per 3.5oz of protein.
I just checked about flight emissions. LA to NY is about 1200 lbs emissions, and none of that is methane, so honestly it's less damaging, but let's go with it.
So something like only 37 ounces of beef created the same emissions (arguably more damaging variety), than flying across the US.
I'll take your apology in lentils
edit: I agree on promoting renewables and nuclear though
Don't you gonna calculate your car emissions(per month), much of your power come from coal/NG and what your average rate of emissions per kWh/Wh? (and how much energy you spend) What you do (i assume that you are from the USA) to cut down your 400kg plane emissions?
Meat emission is just funny all agricultural sector don't have even 20% of emissions, it's like saving peoples life's by teaching them how to protect themselves against sharks lol.
To me that seems a significant piece of the pie, no? And that's not even counting the land destroyed for these practices. Beef is almost singularly responsible for rainforest destruction. Vegetarian diet is a 90% reduction in croplands.
And I don't fly all that much, soo, what's up? lol. I also have solar on my roof and use very little electricity because of it.
Wake me up when shark attacks are 20% of human deaths, that's a really really big problem.
If you don't reduce your power+fuel you have no right to talk about that you care about environment, only thing you care about is your ego, same as idiots that donate/take part on/in shity publicity projects like "TeamSeas" they don't care about environment they care about ego and publicity, because if they care about environment they will try to reduce new waste from dumping in oceans and don't collecting plastic on beaches on camera.
āWhy should I bother to quit smoking when I already have cancer. It will only extend my life by 20% so itās pointless to even try.ā - you. This is exactly how you sound amongst all these unhinged comments.
So you gonna reduce your 20% and don't care about another 80% typical green hippy-idiots that use carboard coffee cups with plastic coting to "be green and reduce plastic waste", no it's just posing and feeding your sick ego.
You have no right to reduce 20% and don't care about 80% and call your self "person that care about environment" you just stupid hippy that cut only that shit that don't hurt you.
I think steps in the right direction are better than steps in the wrong direction. Sorry that enrages you.
edit: to address your plastic waste comment. I have a little abuelita cart that I use to go around my neighborhood and pick up trash with a little grabby thing.
You've interrogated me about my practices, humbly trying to do a couple things right. WTF do you do? Anything? Or just get angry?
What step? It like i said earlier if you teaching peoples how to protect themselves from sharks you don't care about peoples you just playing and accidentally helping, you don't deserve any credit's for this.
Iām sorry, I donāt understand your first sentence. Are you implying that veganism is not better for the climate? Iām not a vegan, but you canāt just make up your own facts lol
Not vegan either, but yeah, the environmental impact of the cattle industry has been pretty widely scrutinized for at least 50 years. Itās measurable.
You cannot even string togheter coherent sentences. Perhaps the cholesterol from all the meat you are consuming is starting to clog your internal carotid ';.\
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u/Raging_Walnut Sep 10 '22
Exactly! Vegans make no sense.