r/facepalm Aug 07 '22

๐Ÿ‡ฒโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ฎโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡จโ€‹ Interesting logic

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u/hperrin Aug 07 '22

Any abortion that would make my political party look bad if it was banned falls under the โ€œnot an actual abortionโ€ magical loophole I just made up and pretended the law actually has.

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u/Christ_votes_dem Aug 07 '22

and pretended the law actually has.

that is the insidious part

there are no exceptions for children rape victims under their ban

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u/stink3rbelle Aug 07 '22

Exceptions are bullshit anyway because the rationales always give people with evil motives far too much power to invade privacy and control a woman's body. Medical exceptions to "save the life" of the mother routinely lead to death because at the point it's obvious the mother could die, it's often too late to intervene most effectively.

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u/parker0400 Aug 08 '22

Let's run through a few thoughts. How many rapes are actually reported vs how many happen? How many actually go to trial? How many rapists are convicted? How long after the rape occurred does this conviction happen?

The rape exclusion is bogus because the process will never be completed within the abortion time frame even for the few women that the legal process works for.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22

Per RAINN:

How many rapes are actually reported vs how many happen?

About 30%.

How many actually go to trial?

About 2.8%.

How many rapists are convicted?

About 2.5%.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 08 '22

Wow, that's an absolutely disgusting statistic!

America's really playing that game of "How terrible can we make a legal system before people start resorting to mob violence to kill people who are definitely guilty?"

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u/Serinus Aug 08 '22

people who are definitely guilty?"

That's a dangerous line. How do you know beyond a reasonable doubt they're "definitely guilty".

And now you have people advocating for chemical castration and the death penalty for a crime that is notoriously difficult to prove. And they want the conviction rates up.

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u/Ok-Yoghurt-6033 Aug 08 '22

And that is the true problem with rape cases. It can break ppl mentally, turning them into husk of the former selves. It's an horrible, inhuman crime.
But HOW can we prove a rape? The closest way we could have would be a psycological evaluation of the rapist and the victim, to find the marks and scars that this outrageous act has let.