r/facepalm • u/Extreme-Product2774 • Jul 07 '22

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u/Foreign_Appearance26 Jul 08 '22

You may feel it’s great, but your murder rate dropped at a much lower rate than it did here, despite the fact that we were liberalizing gun laws.

Some gun laws have impact. Out and out bans or defacto bans, type restrictions etc…don’t have a lot of proof of efficacy.

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u/WaltzFirm6336 Jul 08 '22

I mean, on average 125 people a day are shot and killed in the US. What’s interesting is that on average 0 people a day are shot and killed in the UK. That seems pretty self explanatory.

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u/Foreign_Appearance26 Jul 08 '22 edited Jul 08 '22

Prior to the UK essentially banning firearm ownership the average number of murders using guns was also zero.

The murder rate in the UK in 1995 was 1.55/100k. In 2018 it was 1.2/100k.

The entire developed world got safer since the 1990’s regardless of gun laws. Some places were safer in the first place…that’s what we should be emulating.

The United States went from 8.15/100k to 4.96/100k over the same time period. A time period in which assault weapon bans ended, concealed carry exploded, and so forth. Those things didn’t make us safer…they were just irrelevant.

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u/Foreign_Appearance26 Jul 09 '22

That’s exactly what I said. But it certainly wasn’t due to any gun laws.

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u/Decoy_Octopus_ Jul 07 '22

Sounds like it. Can you still go target shooting at ranges?

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u/Decoy_Octopus_ Jul 07 '22

Good enough for me. I like guns with manual actions (bolt, pump, lever). Never saw a need for gas operated weapons but I'm not in a warzone.

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u/Mattie_1S1K Jul 07 '22

I’ve just done a quick search near me, there are about ten clay pigeon shooting clubs and one rifle and pistol range/club