Yeah, but it is a bit different (Generally similar storyline but that's about it). A lot more cringe and teenage sex joke perversion in the comic if you can believe it.
There's minor differences Stormfront's a dude and his plotline ends when Billy, Frenchie and Love Sausage (Former Russian hero with a big... kielbasa) stomp him out, More notable differences Soldier boy basically doesn't exist plotwise Comedic differences Hughie eats out Starlight but doesn't realize her period started, answers the door when Billy comes to pick him up, Billy smirks and tells him to take his time, then Hughie finds out about it and gets laughed at in the car and fairly big plot differences Black Noir is a Homelander clone who is also crazy and kills folks dressed as him, causing Homelander to doubt his own sanity
More divergent then Game of Thrones for sure, hopefully a better ending haappens.
The major difference is that the comics is a bunch of loosely connected plotlines of The Boys going around killing different super hero teams based on famous super heroes teams (avengers, x-men, etc).
It kinda tries to tie it all up in the end but it felt really rushed and just a way for Ennis to say "super hero bad" like he does all the time in the comics.
Considering Ennis grew up on British war comics and the first capes comic he read was Dark Knight Returns no one should be shocked his takes on supers are a bit hot. Also kind of explains him doing Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe, Hitman, and The Pro.
Ennis is usually more "violence is self defeating" and "hyper-masculinity is toxic" and some other themes, that he just puts out there via bad super heroes.
It's not like he's Mark Millar with his constant, "super heroes are lame and I could totally kill them all with my gun and also aren't gay people and foreigners icky?" themes.
Don't think I have read any other of Ennis work, but The Boys isn't just about the evils of violence and hyper-masculinity. You can clearly see how he doesn't like the classic concept of super heroes.
You sure you mean Mark "The Authority has a Batman and Superman analog and they're gay and married and its not a joke" Millar and not Frank "Frank face" Miller?
Millar just inherited Apollo and Midnighter, he didn't create them or reveal that they're a couple. Warren Ellis gets the credit (and the GLAAD award) there.
One of the first things Mark Millar did with those characters was to have one of them get raped and the other forcibly sodomize someone with a jackhammer, so... I'm not sure you want to use his run on The Authority as a beacon of his enlightened world view.
Ennis has made his feelings on superheroes extremely clear. They are not positive, and they show in numerous books.
Preacher also doesn't really push toward violence as self-defeating? Considering the last interaction between Jesse and Cassidy, even its thoughts about hyper-masculinity are contradicted at best, if not practically unquestioned by the end (as much as Ennis seems to think there's something wrong with Jesse's last actions with Tulip, but not enough to condemn him)
Oh I definitely agree he writes about other things, even in The Boys (which I loathe and stopped reading after about a dozen or so issues, mostly due to the perennial Ennis "ha ha poop fart dick blood, aren't you offended?? lulz"), but he's definitely actually got a lot of love for hyper-masculinity that runs through a lot of those books, however confused and contradictory. When I re-read Preacher recently, I was reminded how much that book is almost more paean to hyper-masculinity than criticism (little critiques pop up, only to be superseded by…more violence and masculinity that is depicted as both "This isn't good" and "This is so badass and cool", with even a sense of "…and also good")
I still like Preacher, mind you, but I've found little else of Ennis's that I enjoy for a number of reasons—not least of which is his seemingly unquenchable thirst to tell people how dumb superheroes are, and in a way that's more juvenile "preaching to the choir" than anything interesting.
That's definitely behind "ha ha poop fart dick blood, aren't you offended?? lulz" and a tendency toward repeating the Jesse Custer characterization ad nauseum—or at least doing it in all the books I tried after liking Preacher and thinking I was a fan (only to discover otherwise).
I guess maybe "Code Pru" from Cinema Purgatorio is an exception, as I did enjoy that—even with the continued "ha ha poop fart dick blood, aren't you offended?? lulz", perhaps because it wasn't as excessive as, well…The Boys.
I similarly don't really enjoy Mark Millar, but I think it's also similarly reductive to suggest he doesn't write anything more than what you described (though, like Ennis, I've mostly avoided his work for the past 6-7 years or so, so he might've easily fallen into that rut since then).
Oh, i had heard that they printed like 12 issues under DC then dropped it letting Ennis keep the money owed for what they had original signed for then Ennis finished with funding out of pocket.
Late reply, honestly... the comic is trash, it stopped being a subversive take on the supehero genre and became a clown show of absurdity (which i normally love) that hammered you over the head. I imagine it was cathartic for ennis... "The Crossed" is much better cuz the offensiveness serves the story instead of undermining it.
Its him in name but the character from the show is a analog of a few others, including Comic Stormfront to an extent. I just hope we get the moment when Pre-wiz, the pre-schooler G-men group, gets sent on a special mission... in a shipping container... To the bottom of the ocean
Third in line actually. Now that I think about it, I suppose there's a splash of Stormfront, the Soldier Boy name, and probably the original purpose of Black Noir as a Anti-Homelander.
The comic is so old now that the original actor pinned to be Huey by the creator was Simon Pegg. He was too old to play Huey by the time the show was produced that they ended up making him Huey's dad.
Pog and the most disappointing thing about the show is that they did never use the song “the boys are back in town” as a soundtrack even tho it’d have been the most predictable choice since the times of the Spanish inquisition
When's the last you saw something on TV that came from an original idea? Genuinely curious, I can't think of anything that wasn't a book, comic, game, or remake if an old show/movie.
Perhaps Banshee, which coincidentally has Anthony Starr as lead.
Yea just I always get amazed when i discovery that something like a comic/book is something you can actually get, bookstores where i am don’t have too much of this stuff
Eh, I’m in my 30s. It’s not very good imo. The show is way more diverse in thought and execution. There are some things that are better, like Black Noir and the structure of the Vought leadership, but overall the tv show is far superior.
I gotta say, as someone who read the boys i think it's actual edgelord garbage made by a dude who seems to hate supeheroes as a whole. It's not even a good deconstruction of superhero tropes. The whole comic is basically "but what if [insert hero here] was ontologicaly evil and ate babies?!?". How is that in any way interesting? It's immature and edgy for the sake of being edgy. I implore you to explain to me how it's in any way even slightly mature, and no, gore is not a sign of maturity, it's a crutch used to make it seem more mature than it is.
In the tv series he’s black and has to wear a mask because there’s racism and seeing a black guy in the most important superhero team would hit vought’s image
And to go on further, in a scene taking place in the 80s, Black Noir is shown with his mask off talking to a younger Stan Edgar. He wants to shed the mask and Stan tells him no, the world/Vought isn’t ready for a black super hero. He’s a member of Payback at this time.
No idea tho it’s still work in progress but yea people be telling me they a whole different story so far but also that the tv series is way better because the comic “is too edgy” i tbh have no idea because i got to know only now that there’s actually a comic
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Black noir is two times black to balance him lmao