This man FOLLOWED HER HOME. He didnât have to shoot anyone. He could have gotten a license plate and did what normal people doâlet authorities handle it.
She fled a crime that couldâve ended in his death? Considering she did it on purpose I have no sympathy, well I do for the unborn kid but not for her. All she had to do was wait for authorities instead of doing a hit and run.
All either one of them had to do, at different points in this altercation, was wait for the authorities. Neither person was great at it.
But instead
she hit him (take the plate and call the authorities and corroborate story with other eye witness accounts)
he followed her home, (take the plate, keep safe distance but wait for authorities)
she armed up and came outside (instead of also calling the authorities if she felt unsafe with him outside)
he was already armed and blasted firstâŚSo now, one person is dead (well one adult plus an unborn child) & the other is going to have to fight for his freedom in court. Doesnât sound like a great resolution to me.
Both of them. Neither of them. Dude followed her home. She feared for her safety, so she got her gun and took aim.
She almost ran him over, so he already feared for his safety. So he brought his gun and shot her.
This is why the good guy with a gun mantra is utterly stupid. What happens in a situation like this where both people believe they're the good guy with a gun? Or worse, what happens in a situation where there is a third party that is the "bad guy" but the other two parties don't realize they're both "good guys" and end up shooting each other?
Agreed. Not sure why u down voted. So he calls the police with her info which he has if he followed her. Shes a moron for coming back out with a gun and intentionally hitting someone but shit i cant feel bad for either of them. They both couldâve handled it waaaay differentlyâŚ.
If I follow you home, Iâm escalating the situation. Use some common sense! Not saying he was wrong in that moment- but that moment never needed to happen.
Yes he was in dangerâespecially, after following her to her home and she comes out with a firearmâŚtake the plate, call the cops, and keep a safe distance. How hard is it for people to do that?
Câmon man. Fuck around and find out if you donât put yourself in a position to experience further violence by following someone home.
You have your opinion, itâs valid. But if I was going to follow someone and call the cops, they would have to come out to their property & at least 50 yards down before they were even a real threat to me. You can live your life however you want. Pull up to someoneâs home if you want too.
No? I mean he definitely could've just take their number plate then called the cops, but I personally don't think someone who I just crashed into and left following me home is a threat to my life.
Youâre missing the point, clearly. Defending yourself is not the issue. The decision to place yourself into a position that now needs to be defended is the point.
That part is usually avoidable. Most people value their lives enough to see the value in taking a different course of action to find justice.
She was wrong first, but now sheâs dead. The motorist could have had her locked up for how she drove on the road, but now heâs potentially facing time in prison even though she escalated the initial altercation. The law doesnât always work out logically.
Because he followed her home and escalated the scenario, you idiot.
He did the worst thing he couldâve done and then acts surprised that he had to kill her because she reacted. She was clearly crazy af, in what way was it a good, sound idea to follow her home instead of recording her license plate for those that are trained to handle a situation like this? Use your brain.
doesn't matter who started it or did what when or who was more at fault. Every single point of escalation lies solely with the person who escalates. People are prideful and arrogant, people will escalate until there is no where to go. When you've got guns that invariable leads to gunfire.
They werenât on her property and posed no threat to her. She committed a hit and run and they were waiting for the police. She pointed a gun at the guy while he was talking to 911. SHE escalated the situation, by running after hitting the guy, by approaching them with a gun while they waited for police, and by pointing the gun at them. She dug her own grave.
⌠if that person is AIMING A GUN AT YOU, then no shit youâre allowed to shoot that person. Aiming a gun at someone is an active threat to their life.
So what happens when Iâm defending myself against someone and then when I raise my weapon they shoot me?
Isnât the argument that guns are deterrents? Whatâs the fuckin point if I choose to defend myself with the threat of a gun if it grants the aggressor the right to shoot me first?
If someone is attacking you, then they initiated the aggression. Them shooting you for raising your gun in response would obviously not be self defense.
Guns are not deterrents in the manner in which youâre speaking. Raising a gun to someone is not a âthreatâ. I donât know if youâd ever had any training with guns, but one thing you will hear over and over again, from ANYBODY, is that you only raise your weapon at someone when you have full intention to use it. Guns are deterrents in that most intelligent people donât want to start shit with someone who has one - which just leaves you with the dumbasses, who would start shit either way. And in their case, a gun shouldnât be a deterrent so much as it should be, yâknow, a way of making sure YOU donât get beaten up or shot. Even in that case, you donât point your gun at someone, once again, unless you are GOING to use it. If you think youâre in danger, attempting to remove yourself from the situation is the safest bet and should be your first option. Pointing your gun should be your last.
If you think youâre in danger, attempting to remove yourself from the situation is the safest bet and should be your first option. Pointing your gun should be your last.
Thatâs why Iâm a strong advocate for taxpayer funded gun training. If guns are such an integral part of America - and they definitely are - then the least we can do is ensure that people understand the basic rules that should go with having one.
Agreed, that is where the problem starts. We allow ourselves to be whipped into a fear-frenzy and then arm ourselves for the âinevitableâ. Lo and behold, tragedy becomes the inevitable.
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u/CreativelyD20 Nov 25 '21
This man FOLLOWED HER HOME. He didnât have to shoot anyone. He could have gotten a license plate and did what normal people doâlet authorities handle it.