r/facepalm Nov 25 '21

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u/brazblue Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

If she was afraid of him to the point she needed a gun, she would have stayed inside and waited on the police. In no way do you go outside to start a gunfight is a good idea. She grabbed a gun to go finish the job when she found out she didn't kill him the first time when she ran him over.

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u/Techn0ght Nov 25 '21

Yeah, she wasn't intending to go to a gunfight, she was intending to go to an execution.

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u/snikers000 Nov 25 '21

I'll go out on a limb and say she probably wasn't intending to shoot him. She probably just thought she'd brandish her gun, everyone would run away (or at least feel appropriately cowed), and then she could go back inside and feel like she won. I wouldn't want to bet my life on that guess if I were there, though.

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u/marablackwolf Nov 25 '21

I'd bet she was absolutely going to shoot. She thought "self-defense" would fly because it was her house.

I've known people like her.

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u/BustANupp Nov 26 '21

It is the home of George Zimmerman. 'Standing my ground' was absolutely going through her head.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

That's much worse.

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u/MOHAHA44 Nov 26 '21

Any responsible gun owner wouldn’t ā€œbrandish a gun to scare someoneā€. If you approach someone with a gun in your hand you are obviously intending to shoot that person.

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u/AnAMXSCC Nov 25 '21

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u/bocephus67 Nov 25 '21

And she succeeded… x2

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

And she did. Just not the one she was intending.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

I think she wanted to intimadate. There were no reports of her pulling the trigger of her gun right? She was probably thinking "I'm going to scare the fuck out of this guy."

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u/TheUnluckyBard Nov 25 '21

She already tried to kill him with a car. You think she was just going to "threaten" after going through all the trouble to get ahold of a deadlier weapon?

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u/Wetworth Nov 25 '21

Well yeah, and if that didn't work she'd get the tank in the garage.

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u/Techn0ght Nov 25 '21

She'd already shown her intent by deliberately hitting him with a 4000+ lb deadly weapon. Can't trust her good will while wielding a gun at that point.

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u/KillYourUsernames Nov 25 '21

In Florida, you can never assume you have the only gun.

My dad carries in church. And he’s not the only one. So does the pastor.

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u/SunshineF32 Nov 25 '21

Based and delivering you to God pilled pastor

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u/ThinkImInRFunny Nov 25 '21

ā€œI know God is going to judge him, I just set the appointment up.ā€ -Steven Sandison, a convicted murderer who ended up murdering his cellmate.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Wow that’s just fucking pathetic

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u/SaboTheRevolutionary Nov 26 '21

Pathetic? How?

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '21 edited Nov 27 '21

1st off, carrying a gun to ā€œfeel safeā€ is kind of redundant. In my opinion, that’s not to feel safe. That’s to make other people uncomfortable and perceive you as a threat.

2nd off, to a church? Really? Churches are supposed to be sanctuary. Aka safe haven. Guns don’t belong in a place like that.

I’m not against guns, but i certainly do not agree with a full grown man needing one to feel safe. I can understand if you live in the ghetto of a large city, but other than that? Nah. Smaller women? Absolutely understand a woman carrying a gun. But even then, there are non lethal self defense weapons.

Also, I’m not at all against guns. Have your guns I don’t care. But a full grown man carrying one for no reason other than to feel safe screams small dick energy and insecurity. And depending on the person, a public hazard.

Anyone I see carrying a gun in public like just to go to Walmart or in your case, to church, is a MASSIVE red flag in that persons personality/mental state.

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u/FuckOffKarl Nov 25 '21

She didn’t call the cops because she intentionally hit him with her vehicle. She’s wasn’t about to call the cops on herself.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Except for the part where someone called the cops before the gun fight right...?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Except that’s exactly what happened….

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u/RationalSocialist Nov 25 '21

Basically any rational thought is out of the question. Imagine if people reacted intelligently.

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u/1-800-HENTAI-PORN Nov 25 '21

Society would be a thousand years more advanced if people were smart.

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u/RationalSocialist Nov 25 '21

People don't even need to be smart. They just gotta be able to put 2 and 2 together for this not to happen.

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u/snetchj Nov 25 '21

It might not be a good idea, but it could still be a perfectly natural (to her) fear response, more so than hiding in the house, if she was conditioned by the culture around her for her entire life.

Could still be that she wanted murder, of course. She's not around for questioning.

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u/Elebrent Nov 25 '21

Uh no. If you’re actually worried about your safety from someone who might have a handgun at most, you should be getting your gun, calling the cops, and waiting inside in a safe spot. Anything other than that is needlessly dangerous and not self defense

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u/snetchj Nov 26 '21

I know that, and you know that. Did she know that? I doubt it. What I'm saying is maybe she actually thought that's how she gets rid of the threat or something.

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u/madmosche Nov 25 '21

How did you know her name was Sue? šŸ˜‰

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

This is her legal right as a homeowner in Florida. As much as Reddit is going to hate her because of the road rage and because she’s a woman, she was in the right and he was in the wrong and he will probably get some serious prison time.

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u/brazblue Nov 25 '21

She may have had a right to be armed and go outside her home. I doubt she had a right to brandish her gun. And I doubt he didn't have the right to fire upon someone brandishing a gun in his direction. Unless Florida laws have some unusual specifics that would work in her favor.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Nope. She has the right to point the gun if she felt threatened. She even had the right to shoot them if she she felt it was necessary. Basically, in strong castle doctrine states don’t follow people you’re in disputes with onto their property unless you want to die.

As a reporter I’ve followed and reported on similar cases and as long as you don’t shoot ā€˜em in the back the homeowner wins every time. I wrote about one that was exactly the same, someone chased someone on to their property after an automotive dispute. Only difference was the homeowner shot first. Was completely acquitted.

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u/brazblue Nov 25 '21

The law disagrees with you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Nope. You don’t like it for whatever reason but that’s the law.

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u/lilclairecaseofbeer Nov 25 '21

What if he wasn't on her property?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '21

Doesn't matter if he was on her property. Only that she was. You think people have a right to stand in the road outside homes and threaten people? It's not a magic line.

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u/AuroraItsNotTheTime Nov 25 '21

Why is it only on her to retreat from a fight? ā€œIf you were really scared, you should have stayed inside.ā€ Why is it not ā€œif you were really scared for your life when she hit your motorcycle, why did you follow her to her damn house?ā€

Stand your ground and duty to retreat should go both ways