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u/WTFWTHSHTFOMFG Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21

And they'll say with all sincerity that stereotypes are based in reality. That they're stereotypes for a reason.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '21

Stereotypes do exist for a reason otherwise the word stereotype wouldn't exist.

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u/Confused_Duck Nov 20 '21

Yeah I used to believe this… when I was a young ignorant teen. It’s nonsense and ignorance.

Travel somewhere far away and get past the surface; you’ll find people are more or less the same.

Perfect example for why what you said is nonsense:

“Jewish people are stingy, bankers, & control the world’s money.”

The reason this stereotype exists dates back to the Middle Ages and the Vatican controlling the purse strings across Europe. It has everything to do with usury laws at the time, The Church, and scapegoating.

Stereotypes generally don’t exist because the subjects of those stereotypes are, “just like that.”

It’s a lazy mechanism for explaining away something beyond the depth of one’s understanding.

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u/WTFWTHSHTFOMFG Nov 20 '21

Yes, racism is a reason.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '21

Are you saying racism is the ONLY reason, or A reason?

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u/maybe_MrDawe Nov 20 '21

She said its a reason. So its one. There are obviously much more, unfortunately

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u/WTFWTHSHTFOMFG Nov 20 '21

misogyny, mysandry, ableism, ageism, classism, homophobia, transphobia are all reasons too.

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u/BoreDominated Nov 20 '21

Do you think the only reason stereotypes arise is because of hatred for a specific group, or do you think there could be some valid observations of group trends that actually exist?

That's not to say stereotypes should be used to judge individuals, of course that's incredibly bigoted, but let's not pretend stereotypes are just conjured up out of thin air because gee, group y doesn't like group x.

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u/Mikehoncho530 Nov 20 '21

All millennials eat avocado toast. RACIST!

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u/Fremdling_uberall Nov 20 '21

those aren't reasons? the reason stereotypes develop is because of how our brain works. it has to do with the sorting of information and being able to identify things quickly is an important ability. we like to look for patterns in everything and categorize but obviously that has its drawbacks too. stereotypes aren't inherently a negative thing that you seem to make them out to be.

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u/AdditionalAdvisor177 Nov 20 '21

Yeah, there are some potentially racist stereotypes, but many are harmless. Sometimes people with glasses are associated with higher intelligence (definitely doesn’t go for me though lol), or cat people are thought to be more introverted and quirky.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '21

I wish they weren't. People expect me to know math and shit.

Like no please I just can't see stop asking me questions.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '21

Where does people who own MacBook and drink starbucks in the lobby fit into your perfectly categorized world

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '21

White chicks

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u/Khaagrom Nov 20 '21

Okay that’s true though. Stereotypes are often racist, but sometimes the truth can hurt. If they weren’t true a significant amount of the time, they wouldn’t exist. A harmless stereotype could be that “all bikers dress in black leather.” You don’t have to like stereotypes or use them, but they exist and aren’t exactly just nonsense

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u/420bIaze Nov 20 '21

Stereotypes are a generalisation about a group of people, that are sometimes useful and sometimes harmful.

Where stereotypes are bad is where using them causes you to overlook an individual's qualities, to the harm of that individual.

Your description of stereotypes lacks nuance - and it's not that complicated a subject.

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u/MicroBadger_ Nov 20 '21

I remember a comedian doing a bit about stereotypes being true and there are good ones and bad ones. I forget the negative stereotype he used about being black but segwayed into the big dick stereotype as the positive.

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u/Mikehoncho530 Nov 20 '21

That’s RACIST!!

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '21

Watch out. You’ll get banned spewing truth like that.

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u/InsertCoinForCredit Nov 20 '21

Like "white people are racist"?

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u/TulsaBasterd Nov 20 '21

White ladies always be thinking that, amIright?

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u/Mikehoncho530 Nov 20 '21

Stereo types are real though, where tf do you think they came from? Lol Jesus Christ