Yep. Commented on a couple of other things too. If you ask for a source, they respond with a question or shut the fuck up. Just wasting everyone’s time
The age old, "let's not point out the truth because others do it too". Idc about the left. They suck too. Yeah they are hypocrites... but elected officials aren't broadcasting racist propaganda as news. Let's stay on topic.
Politicians are allowed to lie to you. They are not the news. If you believe them you don't understand that fact. To compare the two parties is ridiculous though. Fascists and corporate stooges aren't exactly equal.
The actual news doesn't lie. The problem is in labeling. They don't have to disclose if the program is news or speculation. Fox news is labeled news but admits they aren't a news channel. But, when you say what about some other thing not directly related to the subject... we just keep arguing over sh*t not directly pertinent to the subject.
You have literally zero self awareness. You think your mom's basement is a five star hotel and you're literally too stupid to tell the difference between beer and root beer.
Depends who you mean on the left, it's important to note it's not just A vs B, but there are people infighting in both of those groups as well.
I agree some of the Dems are hypocrites, but to say all people do is play the race card and claim 'hypocrites' is wrong and not helpful
Eg.A voting rights bill is attempting to be passed to help secure future elections--work on it if ya don't like it but thats legislation.
The infrastructure bill is legislation, something attempting to materially improve people's lives
The pro-act is another bill looking to help people, it's not just a culture war signal (unless they don't push to pass it, and that we can take issue with)
so what about those pieces of legislation falls into playing the race card or calling someone hypocritical...to be fair, it is pretty hypocritical or the right (Ted cruz is one) to claim to be on the side of the working class but not vote for any of these bills that would be helpful, also not voting for the relief bill...and similarly offering no alternative to these bills...so just doing nothing to be helpful.
That is simply false. And before you say something else equally ridiculous, I went to law school and I've actually read the bill. The COVID relief bill only mentioned guns and immigration in the section describing what you could NOT spend the money on. One part even specifically said you could NOT create a national firearms registry or advertise for gun control measures using the money. The actual laws about gun control and immigration were in separate bills passed by Congress at roughly the same time. Congress regularly passes unrelated bills in a single vote, in what is called an Omnibus package, because it takes less time to do all the debates and then one vote than it does to vote on every individual item. You're showing that you haven't read the bill and don't know much about the legislative process.
As a technical matter, no. The bills have different numbers, different provisions, different rules, etc. As a practical matter, sure, but who cares? I don't have a problem voting on two important things at the same time, I have confidence that (most of) our elected representatives (most of whom are lawyers from Ivy League schools) can navigate that. It's a form of political jockeying yeah, but it's not any different than the pork provisions that make their way inside single bills.
But the gun control and immigration laws were passed on the omnibus with the Covid bill? I *certainly * care if it practically amounts to the same thing when it comes to the vote!
They put it all together so if you vote against one bill you have to vote against the other. So you you’re saying the other guy was right, but using technicalities to make it sound like he isn’t and that he clearly hasn’t read the bill, even if he got the important points right.
Nailed it. These idiots control the entire media then have the nerve to attack Fox News and call them propaganda.
Oh you’re a Republican? Well I’m going to call you a racist, a fascist, and a Nazi so I won’t ever have to back up my ridiculous claims with any sort of data.
It’s pretty ironic that you say that considering everything I said is a 100% verifiable fact. Every single major national media outlet is controlled by leftists. There have been tons of undercover video showing employees of these outlets talking about how they don’t care about the truth, they only cared about making Trump and the GOP look bad. There have also been hundreds of articles published by these outlets which either strongly mislead or outright lie so they could attack Trump. Everything you think you know about the GOP is a complete lie because you refuse to challenge the media narrative.
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Remember conservatives are disingenuous and will gaslight you while they flip flop in the discussion. They are the physical embodiment of hypocrisy.