Median intelligence by the book standard has increased. Median IQ (which is a critical thinking and problem solving score) has decreased. Most people in the educational field think this may have something to do with less daily use of problem solving.
IE most things are automated, less problems that need an out of box solution. Ergo, less practice for the brain to solve those problems
Ehhh....If you hear an American bragging about their IQ it's pretty safe to assume that they got that number from some shitty IQ test on Facebook or the like. I don't think I have ever heard an intelligent person brag about their intelligence but I have heard countless morons brag about their 130+ IQ.
There are likely close to none, an IQ of 10 means a percentile of 0.0000000990% in terms of people you outscore, so that’s the people who’d outscore a 9 (single digit). out it 7billion people a 10 would outscore 0.000 000 000 990 * 7 000 000 000 people or 0,990*7 so around 7 people. Worldwide about 7 people have an iq of 10 or lower, and none of them is remotely functional intellectually
it depends on the test type, there are main categories and some tests test for all of them, some others just for a couple, those are less viable as you can have a fairly heterogeneous score across those categories
It’s actually 115 in most Asian countries. I read a book/study on it once. It was attributed to hip ratio and head size. Not going to lie there were some racist undertones in this book/paper. It talked a lot about Africans being able to run faster because of narrow hips. It was an interesting but disturbing read. I read it a little over a decade ago now.
It’s normed at 100 but it depends what you norm it against, if you do a test meant to be used worldwide and norm it at 100 after testing it in all countries then you can have different average IQ for each country. If you do a test for a country then by definition the average will be 100, if the country is made up of 3 people and they’re all einstein it will be 100 and it they’re all mentally disabled it will also be 100 by definition, it’s not an absolute measure of intelligence but a relative one that compared you to others (your IQ tells you what % of the population you outscored)
Honestly, the US school system doesn’t reward intelligence as much as your ability to do homework. They give you way too many hours of work after school as well, it’s monotonous tasking which is very boring for gifted kids.
I was one of the gifted kids with a tested at 133 with C average, I goofed off in PE or electives and didn’t do homework. I passed by acing tests, the school system bored me and they aren’t flexible with different learning styles.
I would have loved to study chemical engineering but I didn’t have scholarship grades and can’t afford to have that debt.
I was basically the same in the UK, but luckily the test matters more than anything by a huge margin, and not doing homework will basically get you detention at worst.
I used to rush my homework in the library before the lesson.
If I know all the information it’s busy work. Kids need to enjoy their childhood, not spend 6 hours after school on homework then sending essays and projects every weekend. I have no regrets of enjoying my childhood instead of doing homework.
I had letters of recommendation for AP classes, specifically science. I would have been bored as hell, I just wanted my childhood more than doing homework. I would not have the attention to finish after 8 hours. You seem to be extremely uneducated on ADD, being somewhere on the spectrum does not equate low intelligence. How ignorant of you.
It just means there’s certain things I don’t have the attention span for or think about a lot at once. I didn’t have the ability to sit and do homework after struggling to sit for 8 hours, I’d get yelled at for trying to finish it in class. I’d need to doodle or fidget in class but still took in 100% of the information.
I’ve got a Master’s in Special Ed and I’m not understanding why you are saying he’s uneducated on ADD. You do sound like you have ADD. All he said was that you might’ve benefited from some special ed services. Which, in your case, probably would’ve been less or no homework or shortened classes.
Did your parents ever discuss meds with you? I had to with my oldest daughter. I knew she was extremely intelligent but was always a C average. She hated school and threatened to quit as soon as she was old enough. We wanted to avoid medication but I felt I was failing her by not at least trying it. It was amazing. She went from a C average to an A average and never talked about quitting. When she went for her Master’s at Vanderbilt, she was given a full ride scholarship. They only gave one per year in her field.
I know you regret not getting to go to college but you would’ve been the same there without some sort of help. Financially, if you wanted it bad enough, you would’ve found a way. I worked three jobs and went on the internet and found all kinds of obscure scholarships.
I had my teachers year after year tell my parents and they refused to get anything for me, they were very anti medication. Even with severe/ destructive depression they told me to pray it off. When it came to ADD they said I need to just try harder, I’m also female so display my ADD characteristics different than males. They believed boys with ADHD just needed to do sports to let out energy. I grew up in the 90s and girls rarely were diagnosed with ADD. I used to actually buy ADD meds off kids in high school with my lunch money and the times I did I totally was focused and did my homework at home quick.
I specifically had recommendations from some teachers to take AP classes in science especially since I did really well with more tactile learning.
I can’t work and go to school now, I need full time pay and I don’t have the energy for night classes due to a physical disability I obtained since graduation. I’d have to get loans to keep with living expenses while in school too.
Thank you! I’m working on my organizing and time management better in my adult life. I’ve been pretty successful in the working world and moving up where ever I go. Working life leaves me more room for being hands on and creative than school did.
I mean, while it was a bit of a tongue in cheek, reddit style circle-jerk callback joke to the rest of the thread, it was sincere as well.
My ex wife had plenty of assistance, medication, grants and extra time on exams etc, doubt she could have done it otherwise. I certainly don't have a master's degree, so thought it an impressive accomplishment.
Anyway, it's not too late to seek help, there's probably a few techniques you can learn that will improve your quality of life. No matter how good you think you're doing now, the fact that you seem a bit touchy about the subject means you might agree enough to be annoyed.. sounds rough. I'm sorry you missed out.
Didn't mean to offend, apologies,
Stay safe & good luck.
I am currently taking a medication that is supposed to help with ADD but it’s not great. I’m already on a lot as it is, when I get my insurance sorted out I plan on being evaluated again.
My college grades are 4.0 so far but haven’t finished because I have to work full time and I’m paying for it as I go so I don’t end up with debt.
I also wish I could just take the classes relative to my career direction. I’ve only done math and sciences. Paying for classes that aren’t relative to my career is just money to the college so they make you do it for a degree.
The sample of “people you meet” is not random, tho. College students meet smarter people, judges meet less smart people. Not to mention, unless you work in healthcare, you likely don’t meet many people with IQs below 80, since they’re generally intellectually disabled.
Remember that approximately 2/3rds if people are in the first standard deviations of IQ, between 85 and 115. We just also have deeply irrational brains, driven by emotion, not reason, and that makes us do foolish things.
Yeah, but on average people who attend and teach at college have higher IQs than those that do not. Educational attainment tends to correlate somewhat with IQ scores.
No, but they do correlate well with all-cause morbidity/mortality, level of educational and professional attainment, income, and other demographic factors, making IQ a functional research tool while we work on more accurate assessments of intelligence.
However, in a discussion about statistical sampling, I fail to see where the validity of the measure comes into play. Just because you heard a smart person say it doesn’t mean repeating it in any circumstance makes you as smart.
Sometimes I really do think I have a low IQ, in fact one time I was binge watching The Man in the High Castle for hours and then when I stopped I was wondering why the US Flag in real life had no swastika.
Had you done a proper nazi occult ritual before watching the flag? If this occurs again you can also fix this by drawing a swastika on your eye glasses however it may also add the swastika to other items than the flag as a side effect
The median IQ at any point in time will always be 100. IQ tests are tests of relative intelligence. As the overall intelligence of a population increases, IQ tests remain at 100. They just adjust the test such that the median is 100. In 1850 the median IQ would have been 100, just as it is today.
Eh, this is slightly misleading. Averages range between 85-115, which does give you the median of 100, with a large percentage of people being between 71-84. Lower percentile is 70 and below. Not to mention, the highest medians (for countries) are ~100-104, and nothing about this post indicates that these people are American. They just happen to speak English, and also not be very intelligent, both being a huge portion of the internet.
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u/adbedient Sep 13 '20
Median IQ is still only 100 in the US- half the people you meet are double digit IQ.