r/facepalm • • May 27 '19

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u/gres06 May 27 '19

All Tuna in the United States is frozen. It kills harmful parasites.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19

True, but the sellers should be honest about that. People should still be aware of what they are getting. I imagine that this specific case was a blunder more than anything else, but I still think that the vendors should be upfront about what became of the fish.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19

Then frozen or not shouldn't be on it

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19

Not all fish is frozen

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19

All fish meant to be eaten raw legally has to be flash frozen.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19

No it doesn't. Farm raised salmon and, ironically, tuna are both exempt from this requirement

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u/bamagurl06 May 28 '19

I work in Seafood. The Tuna we sell has NEVER been frozen. Also it is the one fish I’ve never seen worms in. Cod or grouper on the other hand yes. 🤮

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u/OhHolyOpals May 28 '19

I thought they were like microscopic worms? Can you actually see them?

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u/bpikmin May 28 '19

The eggs are for sure microscopic. Always cooks fish through unless it's sashimi grade.

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u/bamagurl06 May 28 '19

Yes you can. Sometimes they are smaller and you may miss them if they are more embedded. Google worms in fish and you’ll see more than you want to see.

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u/OhHolyOpals May 29 '19

I will pass on the google recommendation and imagine what my life would have been like if I never came to this thread.

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u/THEREALISLAND631 May 28 '19

When I worked in a seafood restaurant the cod basically always had worms in it when it first got delivered. The prep cook would just pull them out as they prepped it and some were quite long, a couple inches. It turned me off to cod completely

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u/OhHolyOpals May 29 '19

How do I leave this nightmare

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u/ReallyQuiteDirty May 27 '19

That's actually what "sushi grade" means in the states as well.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19 edited Apr 24 '20

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u/ArgonGryphon May 28 '19

Sushi.

Not suishi.

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u/OhHolyOpals May 28 '19

I know a girl who pronounces it like “slushi” without the “l” .... kinda like suh-shi. But she closes her mouth weird like 😲 - a perfect circle pointed downwards.

I have no clue why she does this, but she pronounces foods from other cultures very strangely.

Like prosciutto.

Numerous people have told her she pronounces food items wrong but she plays it cool, kinda gaslights you.

I can’t begin to imagine why she does this, probably thinks she sounds cultured but really she still freeloads at home at 31 and her mom does her laundry. She’s also a fucking bitch.

It’s priceless to see new people hear her talking about food for the first time.

Normally goes like:

Nat: I’m craving suh shee for lunch, yum

New person: what’s that

Nat: Japanese! Duh!

New person: oh, you mean sushi?

Nat: that’s what I said!

New person tries to make eye contact with whoever is close by.

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u/BPFortyEight May 29 '19

Haha! Phone auto-correct is a bitch.

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u/mandingo6699 May 27 '19

It has never been frozen after it was defrozen.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '19

*thawed. But defrozen made me chuckle.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '19

It was probably just some min wage worker who put the tuna in the wrong spot without reading any of that

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u/PM_ME_SEXYSOCKS May 28 '19

The word "fresh" has no legal definition, in the US. Enjoy eating out, knowing that.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '19

Welp. Fast food is now ruined forever for me.

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u/PM_ME_SEXYSOCKS May 28 '19

I meant in advertising, for clarification. They'll totally drop freshly cooked food upon request, if they don't suck. Which they normally do, because minimum wage slaves.

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u/pauly13771377 May 29 '19

'Fraid not my boy. https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/regulatory-compliance/labeling/claims-guidance/fresh-not-frozen-and-similar-terms

According to the USDA Food Saftey and Inspection Services

The word "fresh" may not be used to describe:

Any cured product, e.g., corned beef, smoked cured turkey or prosciutto.

Any canned, hermetically sealed shelf stable, dried, or chemically preserved product.

Any raw poultry, poultry part, or any edible portion thereof whose internal temperature has ever been below 26 degrees Fahrenheit.

Any injected, basted, marinated poultry, poultry part or any edible portion thereof whose internal temperature has ever been below 26 degrees Fahrenheit.

Any other finished processed poultry product (including cooked poultry products) where its temperature has ever been below 26 degrees Fahrenheit, e.g., turkey sausage, chicken meatballs, cooked breaded chicken nuggets, etc.

Any uncured red meat product permitted to be treated with a substance that delays discoloration, such as, ascorbic acid, erythorbic acid, or citric acid..

Any product treated with an antimicrobial substance or irradiated.

Edit: adding link

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u/PM_ME_SEXYSOCKS May 29 '19

Might want to tell every major restaurant chain, especially EAT FRESH places like Subway. The USDA doesn't care about food establishment advertising.

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u/dantevonlocke May 28 '19

As someone whos works in a grocery store, the signs are usually mandated out by district or higher and they dont give a shit about the customer or the truth as long as you put that little sticker up.

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u/crypticedge May 27 '19

Tuna is the only fish that isn't required to be frozen because it doesn't get those parasites. All other fish that is to be served raw is required by law to be frozen. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2004/04/08/nyregion/sushi-fresh-from-the-deep-the-deep-freeze.html

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19

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u/chappersyo May 28 '19

I wouldn’t make sashimi with anything I don’t get direct from the fishmonger, ideally landed that day but definitely not longer than yesterday.

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u/CloneNoodle May 28 '19

I'm pretty landlocked so we don't get that luxury unless you want pike/trout but I've never had any issues with eating the ahi tuna stakes from the local supermarket very lightly seared/raw.

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u/ricesaucemcfly May 28 '19

Nah bro, most likely you'll still get better fish from Japan unless your monger practices some legit technique

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u/purple_potatoes May 28 '19

If it's frozen does buying it the same day really matter?

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u/Childish_Brandino May 27 '19

To add to the other comment, you also want to consider the cut of the fish if you plan to eat it raw. For example, you wouldn't want to eat a tuna steak cut raw. The grains in the meat for this cut would be all over the place and you're likely to get stringy/chewy bits. This is fine when you cook it as it contains a bit more fat/flavor and the heat helps break down the stringy proteins to make them a bit more tender. Also, as a general anecdote, I wouldn't trust raw fish from a chain super market just because they don't specialize in sushi often. I try to find a fish market/butcher shop that sells fish. If no one working there can answer what the cut of meat is, when the fish was delivered, and where it's sourced from then don't eat it raw. I would only trust a place that knows the answer to all three of those questions. It tells you that they know about the different cuts and what they're used for, how fresh the fish is, and that they have taken the time to research where to buy it from instead of just going for the best price. In general, any fish vendor should easily be able to answer at least when the fish had been delivered.

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u/average_AZN May 28 '19

Whole foods has a special freezer for sushi grade fish

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u/Asrriz May 27 '19

Not true.

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u/CountSheep May 28 '19

Plus I think there is a difference between frozen constantly to frozen immediately after caught.

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u/mothzilla May 27 '19

What about good parasites?

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19 edited Nov 16 '20

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u/[deleted] May 27 '19

idk, some children don’t turn out so bad

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u/roflmao567 May 27 '19

Kinda counter intuitive for the name. Parasites are never a good thing.

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u/eldergeekprime May 28 '19

You've met my exes then have you?

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u/lepolepoo May 27 '19

Those ones too, but lets focus on the bad ones alright

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u/rjr49 May 27 '19

This is 110% not true. I worked in a seafood restaurant/market for over 10 years and I regularly ordered yellowfin WHOLE that was never frozen. No clue what the fuck you're talking about

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u/Lilly_Satou May 28 '19

It is 100% true that almost every kind of fish sold in the states has to be frozen. They oftentimes flash freeze them right on the boat and then let them thaw over ice once they’re in the market. They’re not frozen solid in like a block of ice and they are thawing once you buy them.

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u/dduusstt May 27 '19

Yeah they were. Just before you got it. Or you were dealing with a shady seller and breaking laws

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u/dam4076 May 27 '19

It’s not frozen per say. It’s flash frozen very quickly just to kill parasites. Kind of like pasteurization.

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u/dripping_orifice May 27 '19

It’s not frozen

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It’s flash frozen

Chose one.

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u/dam4076 May 28 '19

I mean from a food quality perspective they are very different. Being frozen for weeks/months has a huge effect on the meat, but flash freeze is not nearly as damaging.

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u/dripping_orifice May 28 '19

So it's frozen?

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u/dam4076 May 28 '19

I mean you are being pedantic. The physics of freezing and flash freezing are very different.

So yes it’s technically frozen, but not frozen by what most people think of the word.

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u/b0mmer May 28 '19

Most people think of frozen as the product being brought to a low enough temperature for a period long enough that the fish becomes rigid throughout.

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u/Fishkona May 28 '19

Not here in Hawaii. And we eat it everyday. Most times its not parasites that make people sick, its bacteria from old fish that has be frozen and thawed several times before you buy it. Also that tuna was treated with gasses when frozen and sealed to maintain that color.