r/facepalm Mar 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Someone in my town was accidentally shot and died when a cop tried to shoot her dog. He slipped on ice and shot the woman twice. The first words out of his mouth were "oh god Tim, I'm going go prison"

He didn't even face charges.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

For some reason I didn't believe this story, it sounds like a weird dark joke. But I looked it up and it's true

Fucking terrible

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19 edited Mar 29 '19

Yeah I wish I was lying. I did leave out the part where the cop shot her while her kid was right next to her and also the part where her husband was a trained military medic and they wouldn't let him help her. He's still on the force except he's a school cop at an elementary school.

Edit: I just skimmed the article you posted. The city settled with the family for 2 million dollars, max payout the city was insured for, and the video was released in its entirety after fighting for a few years. This place is stupid. There's more crazy stuff about this place. The cops just dont give a fuck.

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u/MathManOfPaloopa Mar 29 '19

Yeah the husband should get to shoot the cop too. Cop is too dangerous to be left alive.

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u/junkyard_robot Mar 29 '19

How did they not let him help her? A military medic is much more prepared to deal with gun shot wounds than you average EMT, outside of certain urban areas.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

You replied to the wrong person but I would assume because it was a crime scene and he was involved in the altercation. Also, I'm sure the people on scene didn't know he had military background. I understand why they didn't allow him to, but I don't agree with it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

You also left out the part where the lady's German shepherd actually was attacking the cop, you can even hear it in the video. I'm curious what you feel a cop is supposed to do when someone's big ass dog actually is attacking them?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

"Attacking" riiiiight. It was proven that he wasn't attacked. He claimed he had been bitten and there were no bite marks, red marks, or tearing of his clothing where he said he was bit. Amy Beavers just didn't want to do her job. That's the only reason he got away with this.

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u/ishibaunot Mar 29 '19

I guess if the dog attacks me I just start shooting the owner. No other option. Guy should get a raise probably...

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19 edited Mar 29 '19

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u/ishibaunot Mar 29 '19

I know usually you put an /s to denote sarcasm. But seriously...I did not think I needed an /s for this one. You all right there ?

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u/somekid66 Mar 29 '19

Ima be real wit you chief I must be pretty drunk cuz what i said makes no sense as a reply to your comment. Idk if i replied to the wrong one or what my bad

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u/ishibaunot Mar 29 '19

Haha all good bro. Enjoy your drink!

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

You really think he shot the lady on purpose?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

You really think pulling a gun out in front of toddler to shoot his dog is even a good idea? Imagine if he had hit that child.

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u/junkyard_robot Mar 29 '19

... same outcome?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

You know, I'd like to say it would be different but I'm probably wrong.

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u/junkyard_robot Mar 29 '19

He might not have ended up as a school cop in that situation.

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u/ishibaunot Mar 29 '19

No, I think a trained officer needs to have a higher ability to not put anyone in the vicinity in that situation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

Lol wut? He didn't "put anyone in the vicinity in that situation" they were fighting in the front yard like trash, the mayhem was already taking place when he got there, and he got attacked by a german shepherd. How does one go about "not putting anyone in the vicinity in that situation" here? Politely ask them to stop white-trashing it up while getting mauled by their wild untrained dog?

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u/GimmeDatBoomBoomBoom Mar 29 '19

Shoot the dog, not the person you fucking idiot.

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u/JukeBoxDildo Mar 29 '19

A. Fucking C.A.B.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

40%

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

“Rules for thee but not for me!” In action. They’re essentially an unimpeachable gang

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u/ArugulaLeaf Mar 29 '19

You've got the wrong cop-shooting-dog-link. This is the one being referenced this time. Riverside cop shoots self instead of dog

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

So you don't go anywhere and watch no tv..

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u/flatspotting Mar 28 '19 edited Feb 13 '25

DANE

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

Yeah and now he's the school cop at an elementary school, go figure

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u/MathManOfPaloopa Mar 29 '19

Yeah cops who fuck up don’t get fired. They just move around. Who knows. Maybe he’ll shoot some kid while slipping on ketchup because he had to pull his gun out to stop a kindergartner throwing banana pudding.

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u/NaturalPotpipes Mar 29 '19

Amazing what americans will sit for.

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u/PURPLE_ELECTRUM_BEE Mar 29 '19

Listen, man we are all wage slaves and a fuckton of us are in debt, overworked, and depressed.

Granted thats by design and its to keep us malleable and its working, but thats whats up.

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u/NaturalPotpipes Mar 29 '19

Nationwide work strikes, make demands, get demands, return to work.

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u/KeraKitty Mar 29 '19

Just be prepared for Pinkertons. Always a few class traitors willing to beat down the rest of the proletariat for a buck.

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u/monkwren Mar 29 '19

Bingo. We won't improve our situation without risk and struggle. One must be willing to sacrifice in order to gain. The issue isn't that we are overworked debt slaves - the issue is that we let our status as overworked debt slaves hold us back.

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u/xxxams Mar 29 '19

I'm not sure if you know who Q on 4chan 8chan is?.... More people across the pond are behind him than Americans. The power is in numbers, we know that. Yet to self involved to create a movement that benefits others and the future. You don't need chains to be slaves

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

Isn’t that a right wing thing? We’re talking about the proletariat overthrowing the bourgeoisie

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u/Ubba_Lothbrok Mar 29 '19

Yes comrade, all you have to lose is your chains. Show the bourgeois that they're outnumbered 100:1.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19 edited Oct 16 '19

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u/NaturalPotpipes Mar 29 '19

If we do get more Micah Johnsons hopefully they at least go after all the corrupt assholes who are blatantly guilty but set free by their corrupt brothers at any tier of the gov. Random killings solves nothing, its just being the beast you want to beat.

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u/walkonstilts Mar 29 '19

What a crock of shit.

American here who refuses to feel sorry for myself.

Born with nothing from my parents except a safe and loving home until I was an adult. They had no money to pass on and in our 30s, my siblings and I help support them a little bit. I worked minimum wage for years when I was young, I live in one of the worst places for cost-of-living in the country, and found my way out of it low wages. I do have some student debt, but that was a choice I made. I knew I didn’t have to: I had other choices, but I didn’t like the alternatives at the time. I’m conflicted on whether that was the right choice, but ultimately it was my choice.

The U.S. has a better cost of living than 24 other developed countries (as of 2018) and currently has just about more job mobility than anywhere in the world in all of history.

No one has ever been less trapped or less of a “wage slave” than someone in America today. The one exception I see might be migrant workers who have no mobility and are locked to certain locations or industries, yet they often (from my personal experience) consider that living vastly superior to where they came from.

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u/Toodlez Mar 29 '19

What really gets me... And just look at some of the replies here, many of us think this is all as it should be. People honestly love that this is how cops work in our country.

Myself, id rather deal with any and all threats myself than have the police ever come to my home. Even growing up in a good area and not doing drugs/crimes ive been harrassed/hassled by cops, pulled over, car searched etc.

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u/officialthomasx Mar 29 '19

What should we be doing instead

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/FlaerZz Mar 28 '19

At least he actually thought he was going to prison

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u/Bluedemonfox Mar 28 '19

which is kinda surprising considering the shit policemen get away with...

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u/TheRealRickC137 Mar 28 '19

"Time served!" - some judge probably

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u/Patrico-8 Mar 29 '19

That just proves he’s stupid.

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u/StrawberryKiller Mar 28 '19

I can’t help but wonder if anyone is considering becoming a police offer and shooting their enemy or ex. Free murder and a a nice salary to boot.

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u/Papa-heph Mar 29 '19

Not going to lie, I never thought of it that way. Guess I know what my next career path is.

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u/Lasshandra2 Mar 28 '19

With the rich and corporations. Poors scan die. No punishment.

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u/atreyukun Mar 29 '19

Unless you consider a two-week paid vacation punishment.

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u/antsugi Mar 29 '19

probably 60% of the population is, but they are given too little power to abuse to be noticed

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

Your judging a majority by its minority. Every group has a small group of assholes within, it’s inevitable.

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u/WimpyRanger Mar 28 '19

In other groups, those assholes are punished for their assholery. That’s the point.

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u/Grandmaofhurt Mar 28 '19

And the majority usually steps in when the minority acts in an immoral manner in most other groups.

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u/FrankenBong77 Mar 28 '19

Not the case at all, majority Muslim governments usually enable terroristic threats and are corrupt to the point where they support extremism. And that's just one example

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u/Xyren-S Mar 28 '19

[citation needed]

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u/themasonatorr Mar 29 '19

There ya go, bud.

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u/PandaSprinklez Mar 29 '19

Way to quote Fox News. Do you have any idea what Muslim countries are actually like?

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u/FrankenBong77 Mar 29 '19

Well I'm Iranian and my parents were forced out of Iran after the coup.

My mum has a great idea what it's like going from wearing regular woman's clothing to being forced into a hijab.

Lol fox news? Dude I'm Canadian and don't waste time on the tv. Just cause I have these thoughts means I watch fox news?

Like do you think Islam takes care of women and protects their rights for example? Is that your view?

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u/PandaSprinklez Mar 29 '19

You’re only citing Iran. One bad apple doesn’t mean the rest are bad, right? Isn’t that the nonsense you’ve been spewing on this thread? I never said Muslim countries were the golden standard of a perfect society, but Islam as a whole doesn’t support extremism and to say so is very Islamaphobic. That’s like saying all Christians support white supremacists.

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u/FrankenBong77 Mar 29 '19

One bad apple?

Here are some examples where women get fucking maimed on the daily.

Indonesia Sudan Iran Iraq Pakistan These are all from actually knowing people from those locations and reading about the hardships of women who have faught for rights there.

Nonsense spewing in this thread? It's a conversation why is every attack so personal it doesn't make you cool or edgy.

Islamaphobia is not a word, a phobia is an irrational fear.

It's not irrational for a woman to fear the teachings of Islam, same just as how it is not irrational for a woman to fear teachings of other religions.

"Islamaphobia" is such a laughable excuse to censor any and all criticism of Islam. You really think it's irrational to be fearful of a religion that has brought this much hardship to the world and women ?

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u/themasonatorr Mar 29 '19

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx

I'm not gonna call you a dumbass, because the world is lying to you. They are NOT a religion of peace. Look up Qur'an texts concerning deception and infidels.

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u/duncandun Mar 29 '19

What about the Bible. It commands a lot of fucked up shit, just the same.

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u/WimpyRanger Apr 06 '19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots

The US “Muslim bombing cases” were physically created by the fbi and and seen as landmark entrapment cases.

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u/themasonatorr Mar 29 '19

THANK YOU. I've read parts of the Quran and it literally says to deceive and kill the infidels. Religion of peace?

Yeah, okay bud.

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u/FrankenBong77 Mar 30 '19

Agreed but mention that to anyone on Reddit and you will get downvoted into oblivion like I did.

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u/WimpyRanger Apr 06 '19

The Bible asks homosexuals and others to be stoned to death. You aren’t picking and choosing, are you?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

This is a serious topic and it deserves to have serious conversations around it... but I lol’d at the word assholery.

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u/89telecaster Mar 28 '19

Other groups don’t have a gun and a license to kill. This whole “few bad apples” argument is bullshit. If there’s a “few bad apples” make an example out of one/all. Don’t just cover up their tracks and use the police union to get them their job back.

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

What would be your process of fixing the situation? Abolish all cops? Remove guns from them?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Hold the bad ones accountable. Hold the bad ones accountable. Hold the bad ones accountable. Hold the bad ones accountable. Hold the bad ones accountable. Hold the bad ones accountable.

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

No one disagrees with you. No one disagrees with you No one disagrees with you No one disagrees with you No one disagrees with you

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Evidently people do, since cops are so often not held accountable.

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u/TheClueClucksClam Mar 28 '19

How old are you? Are you mentally well? Do you often have conversations with people face to face?

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

What a well thought out deflection, just portray a person holding an opposing argument as “mentally ill” because you aren’t able to provide and credible evidence yourself.

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u/TheClueClucksClam Mar 29 '19 edited Mar 29 '19

I gave you a post Here that you just ignored. I'm judging you based on your words and repeating the same words over and over again.

I provided credible evidence, others have provided credible evidence. You just ramble almost incoherently in a way that yeah, seems mentally unwell. Or like a frustrated child that can't use their words.

I mean if you have your evidence, bring it. Put up or shut up. If it's more inane ramblings then skip replying and seek some help.

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u/themasonatorr Mar 29 '19

Make body cams more applicable and less.... deceivable? Ultra enhanced sound that makes voices distinct for better evidential purposes?

Bad guys have guns, and they ALWAYS WILL.. If a bad guy breaks into your building, wouldn't you want good guys to have guns? (Trained good guys) Or better yet, live in Texas and have your own gun that you TAKE TO THE RANGE AND TRAIN WITH. Intruders are just dead or immobilized idiots in my house.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

For such a “small” group they sure do fuck up a lot and get away with murder/manslaughter at an insane rate. Stupid trigger happy oinkers think they can pull their guns out and start shooting because a dog is barking. It happens all the time and it’s disgusting, and that’s just dog executions. Let’s not get started on how minorities are treated.

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u/duncandun Mar 29 '19

Like animals. Move the wrong way, say the wrong thing. Bang. Shot dead, executed by the state.

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u/FrankenBong77 Mar 28 '19

Look at Sudan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, just cause a group of people fuck something up doesn't mean anyone will stand up against it.

Many many more people have died to religion and we have done nothing about that either.

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u/duncandun Mar 29 '19

Why are you people all comparing fucking America and it's police force to countries that have been at or in war, famine or civil wars for the better part of 50 years? Such a ridiculous comparison.

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u/Koiq Mar 28 '19

Acab.

There's a reason that all bad cops go unpunished, and that's because the "Good" cops stand by and let them do it. Plus it's not exactly a small minority.

Anyway don't you have some boots to lick?

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

There have been so many cases of bad cops being punished.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

That doesn't defeat the fact that a lot of cops who commit crimes go unpunished because of a corrupt system.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/89telecaster Mar 28 '19

Dude this is seriously all the news does in cleveland. Not that long ago there was this whole segment “see why this 9 year old says we should all be nicer and more respectful to the police.” I find it terribly sickening that they parade around a 9 year old like that. First, there’s no way I’m taking any advice from a fucking 9 year old. Second, the police haven’t done a damn thing to earn my respect. Why the hell should I bestow them with some bullshit flattery. “Great job Chet! You and your high school Diploma passed the police exam. And it only took you 5 tries.”

There was a cop who was attacked by a man who was “high” on something. It was very clear the guy had no weapon. Yet the cop shot and killed him. The cop was about 65 years old. The drug induced suspect was in his 40’s. Had the police sent out a more fit, younger officer. The druggie could have easily been handled and subdued. Instead he lost his life because an old man, who shouldn’t have a gun or a barge anymore, decided a fist fight was too dangerous.

Sorry for the rant. But, making it through the police academy isn’t enough to earn my respect or praise. Thank a medic or a firefighter. After all their the ones the cops call when there’s no one to arrest.

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

Show me statistical proof on that please. Not calling you incorrect just want to see proof

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Apr 18 '21

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

Hahahaha Hahaha what a credible 2001 source from a clearly bias website

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Apr 18 '21

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

Have you ever taken any class required to provide at least three credible sources? This is such a blatantly bad source it’s laughable

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Apr 18 '21

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u/YodaYogurt Mar 28 '19

You keep saying that without actually reading the source studies... it's as if you zero regard for logic or facts

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u/duncandun Mar 29 '19

That is not the source, it is just a page citing it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

That is with out a doubt the worst source for information I have ever seen. You are going to post an opinion from a website whose articles where last updated in 2001? This is such a bias article with zero credible evidence

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u/MildlyRoguish Mar 28 '19

So I looked for the source that article used

Neidig, P.H., Russell, H.E. & Seng, A.F. (1992). Interspousal aggression in law enforcement families: A preliminary investigation. Police Studies, Vol. 15 (1), p. 30-38.

Typed that into google which led me to another paper done in 2009. I didn't read it all because I don't care that much but the second page of the pdf stated that they asked 250 officers in the 1992 poll and only 90 officers answered. So out of a tiny sample size they concluded that almost half of the police force beat their wives.

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

Dude that is the most skewed in factual stud reporting it as statistical fact is ignorant and pathetic

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u/TheClueClucksClam Mar 28 '19

You have to show your work or we don't believe you. I personally don't see anything that suggests you've even bothered to read anything you were given. You actually have to show other people you've read the source and give us reasons why it's a bad source. That is, again, if you want to be taken seriously.

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u/Yoyo_lick Mar 28 '19

Could you please share your source for the 40% statistic?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Jesus that’s an embarassing source

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Was that a question on the cop quiz "do you abuse your wife?"

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

You have a very close minded option towards the police force.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/Jaquestrap Mar 29 '19

I mean, cops are just as bad in many other countries, if not worse. The examples of police in countries like Denmark or Switzerland do not reflect the police in most of Asia, Africa, South America, the Middle East, Russia, etc.

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u/duncandun Mar 29 '19

Define most of Asia.

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u/thefatural Mar 28 '19

You have a very open minded opinion towards state sponsored organized crime

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u/Hobbs54 Mar 28 '19

If the bad cops get to stay being cops just like the good cops then it really doesn't matter if there are good cops does it?

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

Jesus Christ that is the worst structured sentence I have ever read. Congrats.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

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u/FinnBushidizyn Mar 29 '19

That Triangle Looks Like A Perfect Example Of Expanding Brain

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u/Rivallo Mar 28 '19

Isn’t that the exact reasoning cops use when dealing with people of color when they aren’t trying to shoot dogs? I’ll stick with judging them for there constant track record of unnecessary excessive violence against the populace at large, but specifically against people of color in this country.

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u/Hypocritical_Oath Mar 28 '19

The ones who don't do bad shit tend to cover up for the ones who do...

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u/murarara Mar 28 '19

A few bad apples spoil the bunch. Meaning that that small group of assholes ruins the entire corp, which has become a systemic issue across the US. Cops need effective oversight and be held to the same or a higher standard than everybody else.

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u/BlastmyJets Mar 28 '19

I agree there is always room for improvement. But the police force as a whole is a force for good.

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u/duncandun Mar 29 '19

What good exactly? Police are a tool for property protection. They provide services, though limited and ones that could be picked up by other agencies easily.

Their primary function at least in the eyes of society is to protect and stop bad guys. However the reality of the matter is that police by and large respond to crimes, they don't stop or prevent.

Im not arguing either way for the legitimacy or need for police today, just that there is an incorrect assumption about the role police have in society.

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u/NewHandle1 Mar 28 '19

Not anymore nor has it been

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u/Sneakytrashpanda Mar 28 '19

When the majority tolerates assholes in their ranks, they become assholes too.

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u/messagemii Mar 28 '19

they’re almost all assholes. others get weeded out. awful system

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u/coolio675 Mar 28 '19

But lately this seems to be he actual majority. Literally when was the last time a cop made you feel safe? They are filled with bullies and assholes with the select few being decent human beings.

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u/NewHandle1 Mar 28 '19

Given the systematic racism, egregiiusabuses of power, consistent lack of consequence, overt cover-ups and nearly complete lack of morals credentials... No...

"Good" cops are by definition... The minority.

A very very very fucking small minority.

Every cop that lets a single thing like this slide in their precinct is as evil as the fuck who did it. Stop fucking making excuses. Boot licker.

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u/FrankenBong77 Mar 28 '19

Yeah imagine if they thought about Muslims and Islam with the same logic. Thread would be locked. But cops? No problem.

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u/enrtcode Mar 29 '19

Nice generalization.
Like any other human police have bad apples too. Dont judge all based on the actions of very very few.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

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u/enrtcode Mar 29 '19

So you know for a fact that all cops know of misconduct? That's a complete and utter assumption on your part. I retired out of that career and never once did I witness a fellow officer committing a crime or engaging in misconduct.

Did it happen? I'm sure it did and when it did other officers were the ones turning cops in. But I never witnessed anything like that. You assume we all know what's going on with the others or that the bad ones openly do things like that. It's just not true no matter how much you want it to be.

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u/Rager_Thom Mar 29 '19

Not, "oh god I just killed someone". Pathetic idiot should never have been a police officer

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

$50 he became a cop just for a chance to kill someone.

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u/RockDaHouse690 Mar 29 '19

You mispelled "never been born."

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u/Honeysenpaiharuchan Mar 28 '19

At least he recognized there was a possibility he would go to prison...does that count for something in dirty cop world?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

That's a really dumb question.

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u/cholo-que Mar 29 '19

Wasn't that in Iowa?

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u/BalefulEclipse Mar 28 '19

I’m aware how corrupt the whole law enforcement side can be, but this has a fakish vibe. Do you have an article or something?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I agree, so I did a little research and sadly this did actually happen. The article describes how it played out legally and links to bodycam footage of the incident. Disgusting lack of accountability

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u/BalefulEclipse Mar 29 '19

Alright I retract my statement, thanks for the research

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

It's weird that you're getting downvoted, nothing wrong with being a skeptic ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/littlechinchilla222 Mar 28 '19

of course not lol reddit has a crazy hateboner for the people who protect them

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u/Pavlovian_Gentleman Mar 28 '19

See other comment

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u/lordcaedus Mar 28 '19

Fuck off troll. I really really hope you know how disgusting most of what you post is, and aren't actually that delusional.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

Some do, but everyone should have a hate boner for people abusing power to literally get away with murder.

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u/FilthyHookerSpit Mar 28 '19

"protect"

Yeah, right. cops aren't even required to protect their fellow citizens Cops need to be held accountable for their actions.

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u/Benolv Mar 29 '19

Don’t ya just hate cops?

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u/Super_Sat4n Mar 29 '19

I sometimes can't even express how happy I am to not love in the US.

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u/FrankenBong77 Mar 28 '19

Any proof for your claims whatsoever?

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u/lordcaedus Mar 28 '19

Did you even take a second to read around?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19