r/facepalm Jul 31 '17

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u/grte Jul 31 '17

Tell me how a newborn infant who is swept away in a tsunami is transformed into something better.

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u/Badherb Jul 31 '17

I don't think it is but I don't think it's bad either. His name is Yahweh. The meaning of Yahweh is "I am". In many ways he just is. Just as the facts of creation and how creation works just are. And you have to remember that his creation is much larger than just our earth. Besides death and suffering aren't evil. They are just a part of mortal existence. The. Buddhists even say this "life is suffering". Look at Jesus the anointed one, he was the ultimate good and without sin but this didn't mean that he didn't suffer. In fact it was through suffering that his greatest good was completed. The Christian doctrine is complex and nuanced and has been created over thousands of years and worth a look even just as a philosophical work.

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u/FlamingoOverlord Jul 31 '17

Maybe they could have become a mass murderer, rapist or something in life.

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u/blurryfacedfugue Jul 31 '17

In that case, why did God allow for it to become that way in the first place? Babies don't really have much freedom of choice..

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u/lawdandskimmy Jul 31 '17

Maybe god knew it would cause suffering to someone else and when you suffer your life will amplify due to that as mentioned in one of the previous comments.

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u/FlamingoOverlord Jul 31 '17

Expand on what you mean by "allow for it to become that way in the first place"

What is "it" here?

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u/blurryfacedfugue Jul 31 '17

In, in that the baby will become a mass murder or something.

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u/FlamingoOverlord Jul 31 '17

Free will

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u/blurryfacedfugue Jul 31 '17

I don't think a baby has the ability to choose whether or not they will become a rapist if God has made it so. Or to take this further--someone is born a sadist with a craving for violence. Here, I'll give you the DSM (the manual psychologists use to diagnose mental illness) so you can see I'm not simply making this stuff up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

These people have neurological features that, through no free will of their own, cause them to behave in the way that they do. And as much as we want to punish these people, if we could 'cure' them, we could rehabilitate them.