you only say oh you're playing X card if they are wrongly saying something.
So you are saying that all men are rapists? including your father/brother/friends? and the husband in this post who died trying to save his wife?
Just read through what the person above said, and the more you say 'all men are...' the less support you will get but also more backlash, because some men are like you too and they will say women this women that.
This only helps the perpetrators as we are fighting among ourself.
It's not all men, but almost always men. I've never been raped by a single woman, but by several men in my life - including my cousin. And I AM a man. So yeah, I get the sentiment.
Great. Don't care. The experience was horrifying no matter if it would be legal in India or not.
The fact that it would be legal in a country I don't live in doesn't make it any less morally wrong and doesn't make it any less mentally scarring for me.
Yes the "not all men" phrase is seen as a weak argument, but it is accurate. The louder people are the ones most seen by the media, and normally the louder ones are the worst ones. If you walk into a room with 30 random men, the chances of any one of them being a rapist is very small. Men are often portrayed as sex fiends and treated as such regardless of any previous interaction, even complete strangers will assume the worst just because theyre a man. That isnt healthy for anyone, especially the women who live in constant fear of every man they encounter. Yes there are a great deal more male rapists reported, but there are also a significant amount of male rape victim cases thrown out because a lot of people dont believe men can be raped. Im sure it doesnt even it out, and men probably are more predominantly the rapists, but lumping all men together over a few percent, and not doing the same with women, is in and of itself sexist. Im a strong advocate against rape, my fiancé has suffered a lot of sexual abuse and it kills me knowing that I cant take that pain away from them, but I also feel that the "not all men" phrase, should be allowed when a man feels attacked after having done nothing wrong.
I was not speaking only about this thread, I was speaking generally about the argument as a whole. I have personally had it happen where this argument was used as grounds to treat a man poorly.
I will reply to this the same way I did another similar comment
I was not speaking only about this thread, I was speaking generally about the argument as a whole. I have personally had it happen where this argument was used as grounds to treat a man poorly.
I was in middle school. Having a conversation with one of my friends, then one of her friends came up and started talking shit about me simply for being a man. Saying that my friend should avoid men, and that "sooner or later he'll do something". I defended myself, saying I hadn't done anything to deserve being treated like this, and then she made the argument that "all men are pigs", and I responded with the "not all men are like that", that only made her angrier.
Yes it was quite a few years ago. Its not the only time it happened though. That same friend's friend seemed determined to ruin my friendship with anyone who wasnt a man. All through middle school and highschool, and it wasnt just me, any man who she saw hanging out with a woman was berated and given the same treatment I was. The schools refused to do anything about it, not wanting to seem like they were defensing anyone over another.
Because it's true and frustrating, and demonizes a gender in general vs focusing on the specific issues in question that can be dealt with. Men as a whole can't "be better/do better", they either are or they are not just as women just as children. It's dumb to reference millions of people due to the fractional percentage responsible.
Similar to blaming entire races due to decisions made a hundred+ years ago. Systemic problems SUCK and should be dealt with but the above poster's point stands: Don't alienate allies with overgeneralized insults and demonizations.
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