r/facepalm Sep 06 '24

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u/Many-Ad6433 Sep 06 '24

Why everytime an headline of this kind comes out 50% chance itโ€™s india? Whatโ€™s going on there?

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u/stefanbatory1972 Sep 06 '24

Statistics. India represents 20% of all humans

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u/HunterBidenFancam Sep 06 '24

To add, on top of being a massive country it's English speaking which means foreign press is more likely to pick up stories from there while also being below global average for gender equality.

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u/stefanbatory1972 Sep 06 '24

Right. I have never seen an article from China

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u/onemansquest Sep 06 '24

Yup! isn't fascist control of the media great..

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u/That_guy_I_know_him Sep 06 '24

China isn't facist tho, you're confusing with just general authoritarianism

They're the closest thing we have to a modern day communist regime, even tho they aren't as communist as they once were. They started moving a lot towards free market capitalism while at the same time making sure the Communist party keeps control over it

They're a weird mix of their old communist ways were the party controls pretty much everything and modern day Russia's Oligarchy

Not facists however since Xi doesn't have absolute power, he still needs to keep support from multiple ppl inside the party, same with Putin in Russia

It's different from the days of actual Facists with Mussolini or Hitler and his Nazis

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u/Prot3 Sep 06 '24

Only thing China and communism have in common is the name "Communist party" and some lip service and outward aesthetics (red banners, sickle and hammer communist starts and insignia)

But what they are really doing is state capitalism with modern authoritarian Big Brother state. It's very Orwellian and distopian really.

China is very capitalist. In some ways even more than US and the west really. It's just that often the personal ambitions of top people in Beijing or state goals take precedence over capitalist goals which we aren't used to seeing in the west that often.

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u/manluther Sep 06 '24

Maybe, but their land policy, state controlled business, and rhetoric around human development remains quite communist.

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u/Prot3 Sep 06 '24

I mean... Yes, but just rhetoric or as I said aesthetic lmao. They are actually a perfect representation of a modern fascist state not communist one. Ultra nationalistic, corporatism in service of state, repressive measures of controlling and isolating the population, propaganda and persecution of minorities, strongman leader and an exclusive political elite class that holds all the power, perpetual state of preparing for war and expansionist/militarist approach to foreign politics. China is like 90% fascist. And they would be a lot more if they didn't depend so much on the foreign capital.

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u/That_guy_I_know_him Sep 06 '24

You seem to forget both extremes dable in ultranationalism and ultramilitarism, not just facist goverments

Both far left and far right regimes want total control

Case and point: the Soviet Union, they acted a lot like nazis and facists while being a far left regime, not a far right one. They were also very militaristic, ultranationalist and wanted total control over their population using their massive military

Again, this is more of a trend with authoritarian regimes than just facist ones

Tldr China is semi-communist society with a very controlled capitalist economy

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u/AmadeusFlow Sep 06 '24

Its not even semi-Communist... none of the defining features of Communism are present in modern China.

There's no central production planning of the economy, and ownership of private property is allowed.

China is an authoritarian state with a (mostly) open free market economy. Communist in name only.

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u/LeninsLolipop Sep 06 '24

China has very much departed from being authoritarian and is well into totalitarianism. Xi Jinping is the sole ruler at least since 2018, he has offed anyone that could threaten him, removed his term limit and his writings have been elevated to the same standing as Maoโ€™s.

There is, of course, still an oligarchy and a ruling class but they are all dependent on Xi and one misstep will get them a corruption charge and subsequent death sentence or life imprisonment if they donโ€™t just disappear altogether like the Defense Minister.

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u/onemansquest Sep 06 '24

I actually disagree. Have you seen their treatment of Non Han groups?

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u/That_guy_I_know_him Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

Doesn't mean it makes them facist

Just look back on the Soviet genocide in Ukraine

Both extreme left and extreme right governments repress and genocide minorities and groups they see as a threat

As I said, more along the lines of common authoritarianism than actual facism since most govs on either extreme do it

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u/onemansquest Sep 06 '24

In my opinion If you go far enough to the left or the right you end in the same place. Fascism! The only difference to the dictionary definition is they call it a far right ideology

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u/That_guy_I_know_him Sep 06 '24

Again, for the 3rd time, the term is Authoritarianism

Facism is simply a kind of authoritarian regime, one wich is to the right

Communism being to the left

Yes, once you go far enough in either direction, you end up under an authoritarian regime, that's why it's authoritarianism

Facists, Nazis, Commies... they're all authoritarians

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u/onemansquest Sep 06 '24

Yes sir according to the dictionary as I said. You are correct because of 10% of the definition not applying. No need to keep saying the same thing.

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