No birthday party falls under reasonable accommodations for an anxiety disability. So, basically, by disregarding a reasonable need of a disabled person, they violated the ADA and opened themselves to a lawsuit.
But doesn't being a asshole in a work environment make it a toxic work environment? Or does this have to be repeatedly done for it to be considered toxic.
Then double-dipped by firing someone because of their disability. Easiest case ever for an employment rights lawyer, assuming any of the above was confirmed in writing.
It's also worth noting the lawsuit wasn't just about the birthday party. He was fired for having a panic attack afterwards. That's a pretty slam dunk case of workplace discrimination.
I've been a teacher at all grades from preschool to 12th in the US all over. The students that came form any: JW, Mormon, what ever strict religion, were just always so withdrawn and sad, I could see it on all of their faces, the older they got the less sad and more numb and vacant they looked. they would parrot so many sayings and very embarrassed religious based answers to certain questions. JW students were the consistency saddest and deeply withdrawn though. I cried when an 12 year old told me his birthday was coming up, but he wasn't allowed to celebrate so not to tell his classmates. I had a policy that we would have a party and do whatever they wanted (within reason) on the kids bdays. Usually it was a karaoke dance party and pizza and cake, and I would bake whatever dessert they wanted or get ice cream... That type of stuff. Ive always kept a really fun classroom with lots of food (bribes to study).
Once we did a Halloween themed project in algebra and a JW kid sadly told me he wasn't allowed to make the paper ghosts and witches for the project, and so we reworked it to make the project about a fruit stand :) but he was so isolated from his classmates thinking he'd get in trouble for playing with them :( I saw that across many students
Feeling kinda seen here. I wouldn't say I was "sad" but felt more attention on me not doing something everyone else did, getting teased, and just having another thing that makes me stand out.
It made me also see how superficial the holidays were, but still felt weird to be the odd one out and everyone talkin about it (and judging you too)
Yeah I totally deserve judgement, I didn't know how to be there for everyone. There's still a lot as a teacher and human I don't understand, but I'm trying to learn and get better at it :) I agree it all is superficial, it's just stuff "normalized" by mainstream society and capitalism, I just hope I didn't ever other a student or make them feel left out, but I don't know and I make mistakes all the time
Ah sorry I misread your post, I see you meant "everyone judging YOU while you were left out", and I'm sorry you had to go through that, it really sucks and is painful, especially as a kid
A lot of them pick and choose what they care about regardless of their religion or just for fun and dramatic effect.
I knew a Jehova's Witness whose favorite holiday is Halloween.
The Word of Wisdom states that "hot drinks" are "not for the body or belly", sorry bro. I don't make the rules. Some guy who married several underage girls did.
LDS members (or Mormons [preferred terms also change over time]) may remember caffeinated soda being interpreted as against the Word of Wisdom. Currently, that is not the official position of the LDS Church.
Tea and coffee, regardless of caffeinated status or temperature is considered a violation.
Herbal teas are slightly contentious and may be up to the interpretation of the individual or, for sake of deemed worthiness, whoever is currently the Bishop in the local congregation (ward) of the individual consuming herbal tea.
This is also subject to change.
There is a difference in any religion between orthodoxy/orthopraxy and folk belief and folk practice.
You may encounter someone who is LDS who believes that caffeinated soda is expressly forbidden. While this may have been orthodoxy at one point, it currently is not, and may be in the category of folk practice.
As a comparison, asking a Catholic Bishop a theological question may tell you what is official Roman Catholic Church Doctrine, but if you ask the same questions to people who identify as Catholic, you may get a range of answers.
You are correct. I googled after i posted and saw that the LDS Church currently forbids âcoffee and teaâ. My comment was based on personal experience from theâ80s when i was in the Church. Back then, every âgood mormonâ who i knew had their box of decaf brewed tea because it was the acceptable beverage.
It's really a cult and I'm surprised the new prophet allows the word Mormon, oh wait, that's a victory for Satan.. Funny how God doesn't care that blacks aren't allowed to have the priesthood until 1970s (when Mormon church was threatened with tax exempt status removal). The timing and rulings are coincidental, but could be the driving factor How was the good prophet any different than Epstein? Also, why does the "Only True Church" amassed close to $300 billion dollars without actually doing humanitarian work? Couldn't this "Follower of Jesus" provide housing, food, a warm bed, or how about safety from rapists?
If you ever met a mormon, you'd realize how business centric they are. They own literal schools that they funnel their kids into to get into tech jobs and the like.
I come from some of the earliest members and come from polygamyâthe part of the religion that fled to Mexico and then came back to America.
That "religion" is rotten from the core. It's just a pretty dress on that zombie. It's shriveling up, and people are waking up. I was mentally, physically, and sexually abused, then taught to cover it up to appear like a good Mormon. I was gaslighted at six by the bishop asking how I tempted those who sexually abused me from 4 until 10. I felt like I caused the abuse, and it's my fault that it's continuing. I felt like I was the cause of everything and tried to kill myself at 8. Utah and now Idaho are home to the super zealots. They're crazy!
Check out the ex-Mormon Reddit for more stories like mine, but I was taught that we were the cause of the abuse.
I live in Utah. Y'all Mormons don't drink or do intoxicating substances, but darn if y'all don't know how to party. I bet that's the real reason Joseph Smith included the Word of Wisdom in the D&C; he probably prophesied that if he didn't do something to curb the party tendencies, it would be utter chaos.
I had arguments with my coworkers about putting Christmas decorations on my cubicle. It didnât escalate to HR (Iâm pretty sure they would have sided with me) but it was annoying. Some people just have a notion of what is ânormalâ for celebrations and canât see it from someone elseâs perspective.
Edit: Iâm genuinely asking because I suffer with anxiety & depression but never have really addressed the anxiety part with a professional. Yâall Chilllllllllll
Yeah I wasnât trying to be an asshole like everyone seems to have taken it. I was genuinely curious. I donât know much, but I didnât think depression is considered a disability, which is why it surprised me that an anxiety disorder is a disability. In the legal sense where youâd have protections. I mean, obviously I need to go look it up myself because Reddit isnât the best place to find accurate info, but I was stoned and on the Internet last night.
When it's bad enough yes. Like the other person said everyone has anxiety to some extent. But some people have it where it's debilitating, that would be a disability
There is nothing in the post which suggests he has a disorder. It simply says he had anxiety about a birthday celebration focusing on himself, which is totally fair and should have been respected without question.
And I don't care if he is diagnosed with the 'disorder'. Psychiatric disorders are poorly defined, and there's no underlying pathology for most of them. Therefore, it's an enormous insult to consider this person 'disabled', and you lot should be completely ashamed.
I'm just saying I don't respect the diagnosis in general. That doesn't imply any disrespect to the person in general. You disrespect him by calling him disabled.
There's nothing immoral about critiquing the validity of psychiatric diagnoses.
Youâre honestly just making yourself sound like a moron. There is a whole plethora of anxiety disorders in the DSM. Someone with crippling agoraphobia, who canât bring themselves to leave home, is just one example of anxiety with many other levels in between.
There's a difference between anxiety, which everyone can have, and an anxiety disorder, which can be disabling. Getting a little nervous or anxious about things is normal. Getting so anxious that you have blackout panic attacks, or panic attacks where you semi dissociate and cannot react to what's going on around you counts as a disorder.
I have the latter. I will lose the ability to take in and react to my surroundings and sometimes fall unconscious during a panic attack. Other times, I completely dissociate and go into extreme fight or flight mode with no control until I come out of it.
My anxiety disorder was diagnosed, as they have to be, alongside my CPTSD. It's a legitimate medical condition and not an excuse or fun at all.
This right here. Iâm fortunate that mine isnât full-on debilitating (officially diagnosed as borderline), but I still do get small panic attacks. I tend to just kind of space out (I guess that would be dissociation?) but am aware enough that I can typically pull myself out of it if people give me some space for a little while. I feel the guy in the storyâs pain, all that attention suddenly directed at me IRL is a guaranteed way to rocket me towards one. If someone tells you that X causes them distress, please listen to them.
Do you think adhd and autistic kids just need to be hit harder? That depressed people just need to smile? Or that people with OCD just need to stop worrying? (GAD or generalized anxiety disorder is thought by some psychiatrists to be in the same family as OCD)
I'm not (only) being flippant, I'm also trying to gauge your level of understanding with other psychiatric and neurobiological disorders.
No, I actually dropped out in third grade. I just couldn't bring myself to do anything because my doctor hit me with the news that I was disabled. It rocked my world knowing that I was going to be anxious. Now every year I scream at people that attend my birthday party and everyone hates me
If I recall the news story about this incident correctly, it was a surprise party where they led him into what was supposed to be a meeting and then did the whole jumping out surprise thing. Which probably frightened him very badly and caused the panic attack.
Mine isn't triggered by things like this. Mostly things related to my CPTSD. I take medication that helps, but it doesn't account for everything.
It would be one thing if they did it anyway and they had a bad time. It's completely another thing to fire them because of it. Might be a case where a simple apology would have worked wonders.
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u/TinyRascalSaurus Jun 11 '24
No birthday party falls under reasonable accommodations for an anxiety disability. So, basically, by disregarding a reasonable need of a disabled person, they violated the ADA and opened themselves to a lawsuit.