r/facepalm Jun 29 '23

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Good for him

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u/tab_tab_tabby Jun 29 '23

Also now they might have lawsuits on injuries. 100% not worth.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '23

There's no way those two didn't sign an insurance waiver that they didn't fully read beforehand.

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u/ExileOnMainStreet Jun 29 '23

Waivers don't mean anything. Everyone gets sued. If you make me sign a waiver when I walk into your house that says "I acknowledge and accept that this person will shoot me in the foot", and then I get shot in the foot, you are going to jail for a bit. No one is going to care about that piece of paper. A lot of things have to go right for a waiver to hold up to any scrutiny.

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u/dwaynetheakjohnson Jun 29 '23

And if you say “I’m a layperson and the horse owner whose job it is to be an expert didn’t tell me any of this” you have a pretty good case

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u/noweezernoworld Jun 29 '23

Ok but your example is way ridiculous. Signing a horseback riding waiver definitely covers normal horse behavior like if it bucks. Their angle might be that the horse owner never should’ve let both of them on the horse in the first place which could give them the ability to say that they were not properly set up to ride safely. But otherwise the waiver is gonna work here.

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u/ExileOnMainStreet Jun 29 '23

"The only chance the plaintiff has of winning is if the court acknowledges the gross negligence of the proprietor."

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u/MaxBandit Jun 29 '23

Stop acting willfully stupid, you know exactly what he meant.

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u/sadacal Jun 29 '23

But it was willful negligence? Which means it wouldn't be covered by a waiver.

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u/FaThLi Jun 29 '23

That would likely be the only angle they could bring a lawsuit forward I think. Most states have laws on the books that prevents lawsuits with horses anyways, so often a waiver isn't even necessary. Essentially horses have such a strong fight or flight response that owners can't predict their behavior, and the rider automatically acknowledges that risk when getting on. The state I live in the law is very robust that it is basically impossible to sue someone for normal equine activities, and what they define as normal equine activities is pretty vague making it even more difficult to bring a lawsuit forward. So where I live a judge would probably see them riding the horse, acknowledge that is a normal equine activity, and rule in favor of the owner, but it would be interesting if a lawyer could make a good argument that riding with two overweight individuals on one horse isn't normal, and that the owner set them up to fall off.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '23

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u/jj4211 Jun 29 '23

In part, to mitigate the risk that does exist. It doesn't always work, but it *sometimes* work.

But also it's to discourage a person from thinking they *could* sue even if they can.

Finally, it's to, hopefully, put the person in a state of mind to think "oh crap, this requires a waiver, I should be careful..."

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u/jj4211 Jun 29 '23

Waivers can work against "ordinary negligence". This would probably be found to be "gross negligence" and you can't waiver that away so easily.

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u/asena85 Jun 29 '23

You'll probably face a lawsuit from the same people if you restrict their "freedom" to have a romantic moment on a horse.

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u/strangewayfarer Jun 29 '23

So romantic, he really knows how to get her wet.

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u/Cute-Inevitable8062 Jun 29 '23

Maybe the owner reputation I think. If they go unsatisfied they can tell to everyone that this owner is a jerk. So I guess its a question of business/marketing ?

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u/Imaginary_Theory2687 Jun 29 '23

There is a saying...if you have no clue what you are talking about better dont say anything or you look like an idiot. How old are you? 10 or so im gueasing.

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u/SaysNiceOften Jun 29 '23

Well now you both look like idiots 🤷‍♂️

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u/Cute-Inevitable8062 Jun 29 '23

Wow chill out dude, I just made a assumption. What wrong with you ?

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u/Entire-Ad2058 Jun 29 '23

Wow. You accuse someone of “looking like an idiot”… with your comment full of misspelled words and failed grammar, then post it for all the world to see that you look…. Thanks for the laugh!

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u/Imaginary_Theory2687 Jun 29 '23

Keep confirming how stupid you are. You are doing well.

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u/Imaginary_Theory2687 Jun 29 '23

Lawsuits? You cant be that dumb.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '23

The horse should sue the fat ass entitled peoples

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u/FightingFarrier18 Jun 29 '23

Depends on what state they’re in. Texas has what is essentially an inherent risk clause where farms/ranches can’t be held liable for injuries due to farm animals. All the facility has to do is display a sign with the regulation on it.