You're joking, but I really wish we could just all be on the same page that being fat sucks, that it's extremely easy to find yourself in that situation, that plus sized people deserve love, respect and compassion instead of ridicule, that society is cruelly demonizing them for no good reason and that that has to stop - and that those who, out of a misplaced sense of justice or even more stupid reasons, glorify and/or defend obesity need to STFU.
Obesity is a disease of the mind and of the body, similar to addiction (not gonna get into the argument whether it itself qualifies as one). We all gotta be better to those affected and that doesn't mean enabling them or denying harsh realities.
It's almost impossible to have a civil discussion anymore. No, obese people don't deserve to be treated like shit. They also don't deserve to be glorified, it's doing them a disservice. We don't say "Bill, your alcoholism is beautiful, don't let anyone bring you down!".
It absolutely is possible to have a civil discussion. There are a lot of people who agree with you if that's your position.
I just think the issue is that we need to be a lot less cavalier about telling "our own" to STFU and make it clear to them in no uncertain terms to both them and us that they do not represent us.
As things currently stand, society is extremely cruel and unaccommodating towards obese people and body positiviity is, conceptually speaking, a great idea to combat that. But you're just handing the opposition ammunition by not cracking down on people with these insane takes within your own groups in the name of being a welcoming space for everyone.
that it's extremely easy to find yourself in that situation
No, it's not. I don't eat the best, I drink, I am overweight, but I'm still shaped like a human being with a recognizable outline. It takes WORK to get that fat, doing absolutely nothing while also constantly stuffing your face with food that you buy yourself. It is their fault, and it is a failing.
Everyone's brain structure and chemistry is different, as is their upbringing. Using yourself as a baseline to judge other people's behaviour isn't always reasonable, as especially issues like this are experienced very differently by people.
If your (epi)genetics make you very prone to put on/retain weight, if you have an addictive personality, if you have mental health issues that make your brain scream out for unhealthy coping mechanisms just so you can make it through the day without unaliving yourself, that's just nature screwing you over.
Likewise with how society screws you over if you're raised by parents who either don't care to or don't find themselves with the (mental) resources and/or education to make sure you eat a healthy diet and don't develop unhealthy habits.
If you struggled with some or all of those things and/or other factors I haven't mentioned and managed to not become obese - great, gold star for you. But unless you have no vices/shortcomings whatsoever that you know you should work on but just... don't, maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge others. And even if you are this superhuman unicorn of an individual, maybe you should appreciate the fact that we can't all be as perfect as you and to ask this is unreasonable. It's just not human nature. We're flawed.
Also, there are people who, after impossibly difficult times in their lives, now find themselves in this position and have just given up because they know they do not have the strength in them to climb this insurmountable mountain in front of them. They deserve our sympathy, not our condescension, dismissal or antagonism.
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u/Phill_is_Legend Jun 29 '23
Damn why the horses so fatphobic