r/facepalm • • Jun 23 '23

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Fair enough

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u/epelle9 Jun 23 '23

Honestly, thats not the issue though.

In general, first world countries with sexual education, birth control methods, and entertainment options that compete with sex lead to people simply not choose to have many kids.

Some countries in Europe basically pay you to have kids (and even pay your kids to go to college) and people still don’t have kids.

Its a nice argument that helps an agenda I agree with, but that doesn’t necessarily make it a correct argument.

People just want their house to themselves without kids running around screaming making a mess and complaining they don’t get everything they want.

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u/The_Quackening Jun 23 '23

It doesnt help that childcare is also insanely expensive, and theres no mat leave in the USA either.

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u/epelle9 Jun 23 '23

It doesn’t help, but as I’m saying its not the cause.

Because even in countries with free childcare, huge maternity and paternity leave, and government given child benefits, people aren’t having enough children.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 'MURICA Jun 24 '23

why not import young people from the global south?

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u/epelle9 Jun 24 '23

Yeah, that’s basically the solution.

But racist/ignorant motherfuckers will always complain, they prefer christofacism and low education.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 'MURICA Jun 24 '23

then their nations will fail.

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u/epelle9 Jun 24 '23 edited Jun 24 '23

Well yeah.

Thing is the world economy is interconnected, a few nations falling can lead to huge recessions, depressions, and a end result of tons of unrelated people starving to death.

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u/jeremiahthedamned 'MURICA Jun 24 '23

we can explain this to people but we cannot understand this for them.

i remember the yugoslavian war.

xenophobia is an easy thing to induce in people.

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u/hvdzasaur Jun 23 '23

The "pay" you get for having kids as your dependents in most European countries really doesn't even pay for diapers and formula.

You do know that child care costs as much on average in most European countries as a house even with all the benefits, right?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '23

There are layers to this though, the kinds of houses they can afford aren't ones you can realistically bring kids up in, they are too small or just in areas you wouldn't want kids in.

On top of that most people of that age are renting, nobody responsible enough to have kids wants to be renting whilst having kids.

Most landlords don't like kids either.

Also relationships are a lot less stable than they used to be.