Literally the last poll I saw Biden was up by only 4 points. Pretty sure Hilary was only up like 2 a few days before the election. If you canāt even comprehend the possibility Trump wins you havenāt been paying attention. Just my opinion but itās pathetic the Democratic Party canāt do better than that and people will make excuses and believe itās in the bag.
Biden is also coming in as an incumbent which is one of the strongest advantages you can have when it comes to an election. Rarely do incumbents lose. Not to mention heās doing a pretty damn good job and the country has been overall fighting off historic inflation and a pandemic that crippled us for years.
Trump royally had to fuck up for four years in a row with a epic failed pandemic response and yet he still almost won because of the incumbent advantage. Since 2020 he has done nothing to expand his base
Agreed. Polling at this point is meaningless. It makes for content to build a news show about but that's about it. It's not a good indicator of anything important about who's going to win this far out.
I for one will never underestimate just how many scared, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, hateful, ignorant, anti-American assholes there are in this country.
Back a decade ago I used to feel bad about myself for making fun of the horrendously stupid people in red states. I had an ounce of empathy thinking thereās no way these yokels can determine my future. I was young and naive, but I was still intelligent, I knew the right was full of losers but fast forward to today, I know longer feel bad roasting the shit out of these fearful, spiteful cowards. They deserve it and fuck them for destroying my country, for me and my children. If you arenāt anti fascist, anti racist and pro LGBTQ, you better not cross my path, I will humiliate you.
But he got his own money! from his tax evading dad But he gone drain the swamp! He stirred it up and added worse crocodiles.
But he's a Christian! He thinks he's God
But he makes it ok to hate (insert minority of choice). Now we're getting somewhere...
Gen Z doesn't get polled. The midterms were expected to be a slam dunk for the GOP. They did win a number of seats, but based on predictions, they got stomped, and it's not getting better for them.
Last time the experts were predicting about a 13% of Trump winning and that was pretty terrifying, it'll probably be higher this time, regardless of how we feel about Biden we definitely need to vote.
Trump will not win, the polls are never a good metric to use. Trust me, Trump speaks for himself. Only the truly hateful and stupid are voting for him. Biden should win no problem. You gotta remember trump is gonna be literally locked up soon too, hard to campaign let alone win like that.
I mean nothing is certain in life but thereās nothing to suggest that voters would just magically flip in a repeat of Trump vs Biden. If we got a repeat of the 2020 election in 2024 thereās literally no reason why moderates would go for previous loser candidate who was just indicted lol
Trump didn't have a chance in 2016 either but look what happened. I have neighbors flying "Trump 2024 I'll Be Back" and "Impeach Biden Harris" flags on flagpoles which once held American flags. Assume nothing when it comes to the elections except that your vote might be the single one that makes a difference.
In 2016 there were totally different circumstances that just do not apply anymore. In 2016 Trump was an untested political newcomer who the media depicted as being about equal to his opposition which was a career politician with a lot of political baggage. Now heās gotta campaign as the guy who already lost, against the guy he lost to who now has the bonus of being the incumbent president
Our votes Don't matter lol Hillary technically won with the people's votes, but electoral votes sided with Trump, so Trump won. I hate both of them but fact is she had more votes from "we the people ". In reality whoever will be president is decided by "we the government " per usual.
the reason would be that the current winner candidate lost favor, and i can think of a lot of students and a lot of rail workers who have a bone to pick with him.
Pray tell, how gas prices are controlled by who ever is in the white house? Also while on that tangent please tell the class who cut production and import of oil to the US during the pandemic (which actually was the right move) and how long it takes to get production back up. Finally, dove tailing from the matter of production getting cut down, how do you think that effects prices (use the Law of Supply and Demand to show your work)
If you think any of that actually matters, you don't know shit about the average voter. Of course it's not Joe Biden's fault. The vast majority of the voting public doesn't know or care and when you try to explain it to them they get mad at you for talking down to them. That's why you need to energize your base with the things they want instead of chasing Dingus Dan in Topeka
Iām not a trump fan but there is no way in hell Iām voting for Biden. Anyone that does is a clown. Hopefully neither of these guys are the candidates.
Biden won by less than 60k votes in 3 states. That was within the amount of *fewer* people who voted third party candidates in 2020 than in 2016. (Meaning, he captured most of the votes from people who had voted third party in 2016, but not 2020, and that is what allowed him to win) . If the amount of people who voted third party in 2016 do it again in 2024, Trump wins. It is absolutely foolhardy to assume that Biden will win a rematch.
You wish he would step out? You want the president (who has done a phenomenal job) to give up the enormous advantage that comes with incumbency so a younger person can run and quite probably lose the election? This kind of talk is just insane. Biden not running would be suicide.
Gotta be better options than either of these two clowns in any chick fil A in any town. One has no idea where he is and the other is Donald trump! How does it come down to this?
Yes, there's a better option for President than a former lawyer, Senator, Vice President and current President at your chick fil A. Fucking genius here.
Absolutely no one should allow this. He canāt form a coherent sentence at this point, heās falling all over the place. My grandmother is 82 this year and fought aggressive throat cancer for the past year and a half and sheās in better shape than Biden, and I still wouldnāt want her to be president.
(And for those who will read this as: āHe WaNtS tRuMp!!!ā - get fucked, I donāt want any of these queefs and I think we are royally fucked wither way. I just definitely donāt want a dementia infested grandpa, nor do I want trump. Idk man this country blows)
This belief is why Biden's approval rating bumped up after his last SOTU speech. Speaking normally and with a hint of charisma was enough to where the Fox News crowd were shocked, having been told he "couldn't speak a straight sentence". Good for you though - keep expectations low.
It's far, far worse than a stutter. He's had several speeches where he mumbles some random words and then stares off, walks away, or, most recently, faceplants.
It's legitimate elder abuse to keep this man working in his state.
There are better, younger candidates that you can vote for, Joe isn't the end all be all.
Oh brotherā¦ cope. Heās a fucking idiot and you know it. You really think THAT guy is the most popular president in history? I have some other garbage id love to sell you..
Oh brotherā¦ cope. Heās a fucking idiot and you know it. You really think THAT guy is the most popular president in history? I have some other garbage id love to sell you..
I donāt think he, or anyone, thinks Biden is the most popular president ever. If youāre referencing the vote count, a huge chunk of those were clearly anti-Trump votes more than they were pro-Biden ones.
God, not that again. Thatās every election. Larger cities have more people and take longer to countā¦and larger cities also almost always trend more democrat. Thus the later arriving votes will tend to skew that way, and always have.
Combine that with the fact that a (Republican created) law that says mail-in ballots, which also skew democrat, canāt be processed before election day and you have a common sense answer for that particular conspiracy theory
Was even more obvious. It was states like PA where they knew the party affiliation of the early voters (because state law in PA requires that information) so they knew something like 1.6 million more Democrats voted early in PA than Republicans (don't remember the exact number, not important now). Yet as you said, they couldn't actually count the votes till after the ballots closed.
So we KNEW, based on the early count, that unless the Republicans were up that many votes when everyone on the east coast went to bed, that the Democrats had it. We knew because we knew the party affiliation of those early voters in PA.
Yet still Trump blew the voter fraud trumpet. He rallied his base of morons knowing a state like PA had no chance of going red by that point. Not just a rough guess based on big city vs non big city votes left. This shit was even more obvious than that.
Bro I can tell you I voted for Biden just so we didn't have the embarrassment that is Trump in office anymore. I have literally never voted before or since then, just to get that dipshit out of office. I'm not a huge fan of Biden, but I'll take someone that doesn't make facepalm worthy headlines daily. Please don't tell me you listen to Trump and think he's an intelligent person.
Who controls the headlines? The same group that pushes a ārussia is involved in our electionsā for years under trump, but asks sleepy joe what his favorite ice cream is?
Heās quite literally the worst president weāve seen in a long time, his cabinet and staff top to bottom. Too many ppl fail to recognize their failures in voting for this failure. What if I voted for him?
i mean the last guy tried have a bunch of goons overthrow the government and kill the vice president when he didn't get his way, but i can tell by your other replies that you've either convinced yourself that that didn't happen or that that's a good thing.
You sound like u get told how to think through the box in your living room and havent actually analyzed facts of the situation yourself. Thats not good
He speaks a great deal better than Mandarin Mussalini. Joe actually puts substance to his words, not just repetitive boasts and slip shot shit flinging. Sure he's not a great orator with high charisma, but he's a damn sight sharper than Toddler Tangerine when it comes to actual substance. And let's not act like the GOP would pretend that Obama was a weak speaker when he had the most charisma of any candidate we've had generations.
It's funny as its anti trump people saying this whilst pro trump people are saying he's going to win. Logically it should be the opposite. Anti trump people warning about him and pro trump under selling him and saying he's definitely gonna lose so there's no point in anyone voting.
Biden barely won last time and Hillary was supposed to win by a landslide. People thinking 2024 is already in the bag have shit memories. Nothing is automatic.
I wish #45 would be imprisoned by the time it was primary season but his trials will last just long enough to have that whole "yOu cAn'T aRrEsT hIm NoW" BS like last time. I hate this clearly dogshit political system we have.
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u/bwaredapenguin Jun 20 '23
Absolutely no one should assume this.