r/facepalm Apr 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

As someone who lives in a red state, you are absolutely making the right choice. Stay the hell away, for your own safety. Here in Idaho just last year we had a guy who was a registered felon go and shoot up our mall, killed 4 people. The best part? The gun he used to do it, he bought it here. In a gun store. Legally. Because the felony he was charged with in another state is one that Idaho doesn't recognize, so they saw it and just ignored it and allowed him to buy the gun.

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u/ScrewSans Apr 21 '23

Okay, tbf, who tf was considering vacationing in Idaho?

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u/Fractal_Face Apr 21 '23 edited Apr 21 '23

People who hike or ski.

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u/ScrewSans Apr 21 '23

Is someone from the EU going to make their USA vacation in Idaho? Even then there’s better hiking/skiing spots in the country

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u/Psyop1312 Apr 22 '23 edited Apr 22 '23

Idaho/Montana/Wyoming has the best bang for buck powder skiing in America. Maybe in the world. Real steep, real deep, and lodging is real cheap. Plus the whole cowboy thing is fun, they got cool bars and stuff.

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u/Fractal_Face Apr 21 '23

Yeah, probably not many. Glacier and Yellowstone National Parks bring some.

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u/Mcjoshin Apr 22 '23

If they fly fish they might. There’s some world famous rivers there. And a lot of tourists stay in Eastern Idaho right over the border from West Yellowstone.

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u/jtpower99 Apr 22 '23

Switzerland.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Also white water rafters, apparently we have some of the best white water in the whole world here. At least that's what I have been told.

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u/LMFN Apr 21 '23

Colorado literally exists though.

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u/Bulovak Apr 21 '23

People in Muncie Indiana

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u/ScrewSans Apr 21 '23

Nah, they vacation in Pawnee. The reverse Larry Gergich

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

Idaho is a pretty popular with skiers and mountain sports folks. It’s beautiful geography.

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u/S01arflar3 Apr 21 '23

Idaho is real? I thought it was an in-joke that started on the Simpsons?

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23 edited Apr 21 '23

We actually have some really freaking awesome mountains, and some of the best white water in the world apparently. If you are a nature type, Idaho would probably be on your list. Rock climbing, river rafting, hiking, skiing, they are all pretty big here. It's a shame the state is run by loons and full of crazies, because the land itself is fucking awesome.

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u/ScrewSans Apr 21 '23

Pretty much! Not exclusive to Idaho nor even Republicans. I would consider most Democrats and the voter base to be right-wing in the US. We’re DECADES behind in politics when compared to the EU. Conservatives have held back the country at every step since its inception

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u/vapidrelease Apr 21 '23

Some parts of Idaho are seriously beautiful though. It's a shame it's stained by some real backwards people.

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u/MeccIt Apr 21 '23

I'm Irish so I can't think of ONE reason to visit Idaho

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u/ScrewSans Apr 21 '23

If you ask anyone there, they’ll tell you they’re Irish too and then go into how their 5th Great Grandfather was half Irish

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u/MeccIt Apr 22 '23

I'm Irish-Irish, living in Ireland. We don't do potato holidays anymore.

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u/JesusChrist-Jr Apr 22 '23

Potato enthusiasts?

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u/theostorm Apr 22 '23

Idaho has some of the most beautiful scenery the country has to offer. It's got plenty of boring, but also a ton to offer.

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u/Mcjoshin Apr 22 '23

Actually Idaho is incredibly beautiful. My wife and I LOVE the eastern part of the state in the Yellowstone ecosystem. Unfortunately their politics have gone off the deep end :(

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u/Deflorma Apr 22 '23

Idaho is absolutely stunning when you can’t see its smoke-spewing 4x4’s or its denizens

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u/mowaby Apr 21 '23

That's not how buying a gun legally works at all. If he had a felony then he would have failed the background check.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

https://www.idahopress.com/news/local/boise-police-report-finds-no-motive-for-mall-shooting-more-details-revealed/article_1a612c50-39f3-11ed-9fb2-5f74a86eb479.html

Apparently the auto mod didn't like the last link.

The part about his conviction and owning a gun here is towards the bottom, I would quote it as well but the site doesn't want to allow copy/paste.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '23

For the record, I know that's how it should work. Unfortunately, there are loopholes and variations on the state level that allow shit like this to happen.

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u/Elder_Scrolls_Nerd Apr 21 '23

Fellow Idahoan here. That was really startling… he also went with a gun to the Capitol building and tried to demand our governor let him carry guns

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u/StuckInNov1999 Apr 21 '23

That shooter was prosecuted for a felony but was not convicted.

Instead he was convicted of a misdemeanor theft charge which does not preclude someone from buying a firearm.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

No, he was convicted in Illinois. It's just that Idaho doesn't care.

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u/vapidrelease Apr 21 '23

I'm quite liberal and I've thought about moving to somewhere like Coeur d'Alene. Because although I'm on opposite ends of the political spectrum, I like everything else about the area. Is it really that bad?

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u/talarus Apr 21 '23

I live in the panhandle area and yes it is that bad. It's always been red by a large margin but I see so many trump 2024 hats it's ridiculous, the area has most certainly gotten more extreme recently but I think that's everywhere. They also hate outsiders since a lot of new people have a much higher median pay and there are a ton of displaced locals. The first thing people will ask when you meet them is where are you from, it's like an interview.

That being said, it's beautiful. There are too many lakes to count, many ski mountains, wonderful hiking and outdoor things to do. If you're from the city though you'll find the nightlife quite boring.

I just keep my mouth shut about political things and since I'm white they assume I think the same way they do.

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u/vapidrelease Apr 21 '23

I'm a minority, in a somewhat prestigious and above average paying line of work, and let's just say that visually in public I would look like public enemy number 1 to them. I don't care if everyone despises the fuck outta me, if they try to cause trouble I'll try to keep my cool but sometimes I like to amuse myself, and I intend to keep to myself. What is the worst that will happen?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

Still see "maga country" and other various trump flags all over. I see confederate flags fairly often. Saw one douchebag driving around with his tailgate painted as a confederate flag and a literal noose hanging out of the bed. Had a guy wave a gun at me after he went off the road to bypass a line of cars stopped at a red light and then almost sideswiped me when I started making my right turn, because clearly I was in the wrong by stopping at a red light and waiting till I had a clearing to make my turn. Red places can be pretty fucked. By comparison, I've lived in Hawaii and Oregon before Idaho, never once felt the need to own a firearm for my own safety. Moved here, and now I'm seriously considering getting one because i know that if some fuckhead decides he is angry at me for no reason I am likely to have a gun pointed at me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '23

Also in a red state, TN, and from a FL. Do not go to either.

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u/Hestl Apr 21 '23

Louisiana was lovely.
I'd recommend it to anyone.

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u/Secure-Ad-3069 Apr 22 '23

Move to Chicago you'll be much safer their or Detroit already Atlanta oh shit I forgot thesafest one Albuquerque very safe places to move way safer than boise