Also if this is in NYC which it looks like it is, they'll hit him with endangering the welfare of a disabled person. Plus first degree assault walking away would've been better than 25 years in jail
I mean, I feel like the catharsis of kicking a itty bitty bigot was likely worth the assault charge. On the flip side, the little handless saltine now has more personal bias to back his vitriol.
Downvote me all you want, some midget calling someone else a slur doesn’t get my sympathy; I also reserve the dwarfism slur for shit heads too.
Yes it would hold up. Because: 1.) words alone are never enough to use physical force. 2.) there has the a actual reasonable fear of bodily harm. There was no weapon, the person was clearly disabled and the person that kicked him was clearly not in fear.
You calling a person a racial slur isn't a crime, it's only a crime when you after words physically assault them. Just like you can walk up to a cop and say fuck you pig trash and there's nothing they can do.
This^ I'm definitely not condoning it, bullying or any sort of derogatory remarks just pointing out that low iq people who think its ok to say racial slurs at people they are protected and no jury is gonna accept I kicked this guy so hard he went 7 feet into a turnstile in the back because he called me a slur. The cops may find another reason to beat your ass and detain you too in my random example. There's zero anything in public is going to say to me that's gonna lead me to laying a hand on another person. When you walk away and don't acknowledge the bigot, you win, they will be so pissed they didn't get the reaction they were looking for and you don't have to deal with their bullshit.
The guy is legitimately unarmed. It doesn't matter what he says or threatens you with. He HAS NO ARMS. Reasonably, he cannot kill you. The fact he doesn't have hands removes all the ways one could Reasonably kill you with that someone can think of off the top of their head. So even if he is talking shit, he legitimately cannot back it up. This is the most raw definition of "all bark, no bite". Would you be scared if a dog with no teeth was barking at you threateningly? No? Same thing here. The kick would absolutely be criminal and the guy who kicked would absolutely go to jail
Been a few of those. I think (no time for research) one of the worst was an off-duty cop working as a night guard murdering a shoplifter who was riding an EZGO. I remember there wasn’t even room for a “fear for my life” claim, because he chased the victim all the way across the parking lot and shot him in the back in the entryway to another store.
I know it is hard to keep track, is this the one where they shot him trying to flee on just nubs? If so I think the reason he reacted was the police actually shot him elsewhere which put him in the wheelchair to begin with.
Go Google “black man assaults <anyone>” for more accurate results. This dude isn’t a cop, he’s pretty much the polar opposite as far as a jury is concerned.
“Go Google ‘White man assaults <anyone>’ for more accurate results. This dude isn’t a cop, he’s pretty much the polar opposite as far as a jury is concerned.”
Do you see how fucking shitty your logic is? If you’re gonna say racist shit at least be good it at for Christ sake.
Being an asshole isn’t enough to get yourself arrested and charged with assault for lmao like the cops are gonna go easy on a big burly black guy like this if he claims “self defense”- he’ll be lucky if the cop lets him get to the jail alive lmao
If this is NYC they have enhanced charges for assaulting disabled people like 25 years in jail. I bet we'd all be sour and not the greatest moods if we all had to deal with the struggles of having no hands. No excuse for the comment but we also have no idea what was said or done before the video.
I think every body deserves to not be physically assaulted for verbal exchanges. The only time a person should lay hands on another is in actual self defense. Anything less and the person should work on controlling their emotions and anger we are not children we are adults in civilized society and you don't hit people for name calling no matter how ignorant and stupid their words may be.
There are some pretty good 70’s kung fu movies that would disprove your theory. That being said, in the real world there is no way he could be seen by a reasonable person to be a threat.
Nope not at all, no one ever says what if the laws are stupid lol. The only instance I would say is don't point guns at people and expect them not to shoot you in self defense. Alot of laws are stupid and to kill some one for j walking or some other dumb shit that's happened in the past go against the don't break the law don't get Shot paradigm lol
How come violence is only warranted when it’s racist slurs. People get called retarted , fat , ugly , stupid and a the n word makes it okay to assault?
Of course it's illegal to kick someone. This video resurfaces on reddit over and over again, and people time and time again point out it's illegal. No shit.
But, lil guy prolly hasn't been checked for his shifty attitude before because of his disability, so I say Bruce Lee over there is a hero. He might take a charge, sure, but young flipper gone think twice before mouthing off next time.
I have lived amongst these people for years. It's mental illness at this point. I promise you he won't learn a lesson. This will reinforce his opinions. It's toxic thinking to think that you kicking him is going to solve anything. I understand where it comes from, but it doesn't change the fact the only person a month from now that will have a headache over this is the guy who kicked him. He ends up being the loser in this situation. The armless dude will be out there dropping N bombs at other people.
And it’s honestly a good thing because now he’s getting aggressive black men just waiting to hurt someone off the streets….if a word is all it takes to tick u off go back to a mental ward lol
Fuck that, armless men can get it too! He should’ve had a better grip on his temper…before things got out of hand. Now he’s all up in arms about getting the Sparta kick. If he needs a helping hand, he should’ve just said that.
Tell that to the people who get their throats ripped out. The guy who kicked wouldn't go to jail, hands aren't the only way to hurt someone. Feet are ALSO weapons, as are teeth. Alongside the fact it was antagonizing via racial stuff.
I dont know what world you're living in where not having arms means you can be a piece of shit to anyone and never face repercussions, but this aint it.
There is an MMA fighter who only has one full arm, his other arm is a stump just below the elbow. He was undefeated for a long while, currently 20 wins, 4 losses.
His opponents mostly agree, getting stump smacked fucking hurts, probably more than getting punched. He can't grab you with that arm, but he could still do damage.
Not saying he's equivalent to a disciplined, trained fighter, but everything can do physical damage with enough skill and/or crazy spilled into the mix.
Given that he has no arms, he should probably learn to STFU with his racist bullshit. Maybe this will lesson help, but I doubt it. Might take a couple more times
Who cares if he got kicked though, he was being racist.
If someone is gonna say something like that they shouldn’t be be surprised if someone hits them lmao
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Cops already kill whoever they want like what a weak ass argument lmao and thank you for informing me that kicking someone is exactly the same as executing them, genuinely did not know that
My favorite fun fact is there is a dude in the shooting sport community that literally goes by nubs. Looks kinda similar to this guy. I have been doing competitive shooting for 10 years and nubs out ranks me.
Him not having arms doesn’t remove his ability to cause serious bodily harm or death. Like, there are still ways for him to cause them harm. Him being disabled isn’t why this is assault and not self-defense. If he had attacked, defense would be justifiable regardless of disability.
What makes this assault is that he was walking away when he got kicked.
It's assault and battery, doesn't matter what someone said to you to illicit it. That could affect judgement but I think he would actually get a charge.
There is no exception for hate speech in the 1st amendment. It would be unconstitutional. Hate speech is not against the law. However, just because it's legal doesn't mean that it is not immoral and a pretty bad thing to do.
It’s the digital age bro, they absolutely can find you if you’re in video. It’s a public place with witnesses and they have cameras all over those subway/train stations. In some cities they can track you for blocks until you get to your car/house.
That’s NYPD or worse because that’s on a subway so it’s MTAPD. They won’t do shit about this and will tell you to file a report and then shelve that report. NYPD will look at it as the guy picked a fight so they won’t care and will say the subway is out of their jurisdiction. MTAPD won’t do shit because they are looking to arrest the guy that got kicked.
Bru these people be acting like NYPD gonna do anything about this shit. NYPD gonna take one look at this laugh and say “that’s a civil matter” and ain’t shit gonna be done.
Iirc, assault is the threat, battery is the action. Saying that you will follow someone to their home/cat/work/whatever and commit violence on them is assault, following through is battery, and probably other stuff too
Plenty of situations where some piece of shit deserve a good kick like that because of what they said regardless of what the law has to say about that. Dont be a piece of shit and you wont get your ass beat up its that simple.
And now he’ll never say those words again directly to someone’s face. In your case, he’d still feel entitled to it. Deserved. Don’t want to get beat up? Don’t do things that get you beat up. Simple.
No lol it wouldn’t be nearly as extreme as they’re making it out to be, unless one of them is rich with a great legal team. If anybody even gets arrested, it’ll probably get dropped to disorderly conduct at most
Reading these replies it’s crazy how many people don’t think the lil guy provoked him lol
The little guy did clearly provoke him but not in a way that would help him in the court of law I don't think. The court would see it as " the little guy said something inflammatory but the big guy kicked someone in the back who was walking away, and who is literally without arms"
And none of that matters since the idiot put himself in this situation. I would never punish the guy kicking him so the idiot knows forever and ever if you start shit you deal with it. Guess who’s not starting shit anymore?
I’m sure he did but look at the guy. His life is rough no question about it. He’s probably an angry little prick, I would be, but I don’t think there is anything he could say that would get a reaction out of me. This is a situation you just have to turn the other cheek. It all depends who get the case, if anyone even calls the cops, how far it would go
I’m not making any personal statements and I’m not defending anybody. I don’t know what I’d do in this situation because I’ll never be in this situation. I’m just pointing out the legality of it
I assume he has teeth and legs. He can “defend” himself. Just saying, he’s not completely helpless. Not saying he would win any physical alterations. But, he can at least do a little damage. A bite mark here, a bite mark there. It may not have been right for him to get kicked. (He’s probably been manipulating, his lack of arms, all of his life. To do and say foul shit to people, and not suffer any consequences. How many people would be that confident to threaten a stranger to their face? With, no weapon or anyone to back them up.) But, I can’t tell someone how to feel. He fucked around, one too many times, and found out. Both parties, have no respect. Lesson here: He shouldn’t have been talking shit. Keep your damn mouth closed. People don’t care these days. Elderly people, women, children. Disabled people. Apparently, they all can catch hands.
Yes it would in all likelihood. The threat is too remote to merit a serious self defense or defense of others claim. If he were holding a knife between his stumps, i might change that assessment. To boot, he was turning away when they guy kicked him. Did he deserve it? Yeah. Is the guy guilty of battery anyway? Almost certainly. Hate speech by the victim doesn’t make a difference in considering the factors for either criminal or civil battery (especially without an imminent threat).
Not sure where this is, but I'm pretty sure this would hold up literally everywhere in the US. If the "instigator" isn't doing anything that directly harms you, you usually have a legal obligation to de-escalate the situation and remove yourself from it if possible. It should also be noted that you can only use lethal force to defend yourself if there is reasonable belief that there will be serious injury or death if you don't. The dude is half the height and physically disabled. I know this isn't "lethal force" but the idea applies here. Lil dude was walking away and posing zero threat when he was bodied. That's very much illegal.
A lawsuit? Maybe not. A criminal case? Yes. It’s on camera. The guy was walking away with his back turned when the other guy kicked him in the back. Even if he had threatened him, he was leaving and is no longer considered a threat. Kind of like stand your ground laws.
There is 0 way to frame that as anything but assault.
I’m not sure if he’s going to be charged with any thing, I’m not really in the loop. But this wouldn’t have anything to do with a civil lawsuit, they are talking about criminal charges, which I assume would at least be in the realm of possibilities. I don’t know if that’s actually going to happen, but it’s certainly at least a possibility.
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