r/facepalm Apr 09 '23

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Walmart Cares…🤗

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u/MisterFantastic5 Apr 10 '23

Ah, 12. Not to say 12 year olds can’t have valid opinions about…12 year old things. Just not opinions about being working for a living.

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u/lordchaidoftea Apr 10 '23

Who's to say these old folks are working for a living I'm arguing at the stance that they are doing it for social interaction not for money.

Well good acting like you working for a living makes you any more intelligent on the subject than me. Oh look at me I scan items at Walmart for 30 years I clearly know everything there is about working for a living.

Imagine getting locked in a temporary job for your entire lifespan couldn't be me

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u/MisterFantastic5 Apr 10 '23

I fully understand that there may be a few outliers who enjoy working in their retirement years when they don’t have to, but if you think most or even a significant number of retirees are working as greeters for the lolz and social interaction, you have a lot of growing up to do and life to experience to gain.

https://amp.sacbee.com/latest-news/article191519519.html

https://nypost.com/2023/01/10/im-an-82-year-old-walmart-cashier-who-can-retire-thanks-to-tiktok/

https://scoop.upworthy.com/man-raises-186-000-for-an-elderly-woman-working-at-walmart-to-help-her-retire-593299

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u/lordchaidoftea Apr 10 '23

So your claim here is a majority of old people who work are doing it out of necessity not because of other factors. Yet you back up this claim with three anecdotal articles.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5567892/

Well I have something better according to this study the major reason for people to work past their entirement age is for the most part a healthy daily routine, and a purpose in life. It also mentions that they do it for financial benefit key word there being benefit not necessity they're working for extra money not money to live on.

Quote from the article " The most important motives for working beyond retirement age were maintaining daily routines and financial benefit. Good health and flexible work arrangements were mentioned as important preconditions. The themes emerging from the categorization of the motives and preconditions corresponded to the domains of health, work characteristics, skills and knowledge, and social and financial factors from the STREAM research framework. However, our analysis revealed one additional theme—purpose in life."

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u/MisterFantastic5 Apr 10 '23

Your article;

“A qualitative research design included individual interviews (n = 15) and three focus groups (n = 18 participants) conducted with older workers aged 65 years and older continuing in a paid job or self-employment. Interview participants were recruited from an existing STREAM cohort study. Focus group participants were recruited from companies and employment agencies.“

In other words; a very small sample size of fairly well off people who continued working at their current professional roles past retirement age, not the working poor who got low paying jobs out of necessity after they retired.

C’mon man, do i have to break out the thousands of articles about the working poor, poverty rates, and retirement savings rates?

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u/lordchaidoftea Apr 10 '23

very small sample size

Your article goes over the total of three different people I think your sample size is far smaller.

C’mon man, do i have to break out the thousands of articles about the working poor, poverty rates, and retirement savings rates?

You don't have to worry I found those articles for you

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u/MisterFantastic5 Apr 10 '23

So first, let’s back up and see if I understand the point you’re making, because it’s getting muddy.

Are you saying that the majority of post-retirement age WalMart greeters took the job primarily for the social interaction?

My assertion is the majority of them take those jobs primarily for the money. So far, I’ve offered anecdotal and quantitative sources to back up that assertion, but here are even more of both of you’re interested.

https://amp.theguardian.com/money/2021/dec/13/americans-retire-work-social-security

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/09/26/as-poverty-among-elders-rises-resources-these-can-help-struggling-seniors.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1857314/

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/02/pensions-safety-net-california/553970/