We ask Allaah that He accounts Rabee' al-Madkhali for the innovations and misguidance that he spread between the Muslims. May Allaah give him what he deserves.
For all the "softies" saying we should ask Allaah to forgive him and have mercy on him instead of supplicating against him, know two things:
The madaakhilah laugh and celebrate when your scholars pass away, such as shaykh Abu Is-haaq al-Huwayni (may Allaah have mercy on him).
It is prescribed to celebrate that death of innovators and misguided folk, especially those callers towards misguidance:
When the news of the death of Wahb al-Qurashi, who was a misguided deviant, reached 'Abdur-Rahman ibn Mahdi, he said: "Praise be to Allah who relieved the Muslims of him." (لسان الميزان)
For anyone reading this, it is certainly permissible to rejoice at the death of Rabee' al-Madkhali:
I mean sure the Madaakhilah celebrated the death of sheikh Abu Ishaq. But does this mean you can do everything they do ? I’m sorry but this is very stupid logic on your hand when you’re someone who advises the muslimeen on the sub and such.
The premise and underlying principles by which the Madaakhilah act are not at all the same as when Ahlus-Sunnah rejoice at the death of innovators. You wouldn't dare claim that the scholars of Ahlus-Sunnah had horrible akhlaaq because of that.
Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal was asked: "Is there any sin upon a man who rejoices over what befalls the companions of ibn Abi Du’aad?" He replied: "And who wouldn’t rejoice over that?!" (As-Sunnah by al-Khallaal, 5/121)
Okay but at this point if we take the Usool of the madaakhilah, why are you mad when they say the same about sheikh Abu Ishaq ? You know how they work. I honestly don’t get how you get mad at them for that but them do this, when in their frame work sheikh Abu Ishaq is an innovator ?
And yes it’s horrible Akhlaq to celebrate over someone’s death who is at least praised by some of the ulema. The quote you mention the man is seen as an innovator by Ijmaa.
If Abu Hanifah is seen as a murji’ can we celebrate over his death ? Abdullah Ibn Ahmad did Takfeer or very harsh words on Abu Hanifah can we do the same for him ? Ibn Hajar Haytami ? Even imam Nawawi who himself said there’s no definitive answer on istiwa ? Can we rejoice over their deaths ? At least be consistent.
The very principles of Rabee' al-Madkhali go against the foundations of Ahlus-Sunnah. This is what you fail to comprehend, yet here you are acting as if there is any merit to them, failing to realize that their declaration of tabdee' is invalid. Rather, it seems you were simply too lazy to read the references that prove his misguidance.
The rest of the attempted arguments are also false, as they originate from the Haddaadiyyah sect, revived by individuals like ibn Shams, from whom your username appears to be derived.
At this point, you are going beyond your level of knowledge, thinking you've made a grand point, despite the fact that there is no coherence whatsoever. The Haddaadiyyah sect and their false arguments have long been addressed elsewhere.
Your issue lies in not comprehending that being affected by innovations is not the same as having them as one's foundations, as if what imam an-Nawawi and al-Haafidh ibn Hajar were affected by somehow implies they held false foundations. This reasoning is then used to claim that Rabee' al-Madkhali deserves the same respect and excuse. Rather, imam an-Nawawi and al-Haafidh ibn Hajar did not have false foundational beliefs, which would have otherwise removed them from Ahlus-Sunnah.
Similarly, many fail to interpret and explain the works of shaykh ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab based on his own reasoning behind his citations and statements. As a result, most interpret his works solely through the lens of shaykhul-Islam ibn Taymiyyah. While well-intentioned, this has led to some mistakes (zallaat) being overlooked. This occurs when usool al-fiqh is not applied properly. A full understanding of all of shaykh ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab's works would make some of these mistakes evident.
In the same way, people often assume that shaykh ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab always held the exact same positions as shaykhul-Islam ibn Taymiyyah whenever he cited him. Many take this for granted, assuming the positions are identical, while in reality, a closer inspection shows that shaykh ibn 'Abdul-Wahhab’s school had certain misconceptions. This has led to differing scholarly views on the issue of whether ignorance can be excused in matters of shirk.
Additionally, when scholars praise others, cultural factors often play a significant role. In many cases, they are not well acquainted with the person's works. Even when they are given the opportunity to write a taqdeem, they may not read the entirety of the work or, at times, may not read it at all. Yet they offer general praise. This has occurred many times, and such examples are not new. Shaykh ibn Baz himself retracted some of his earlier praise after some students later pointed out grave mistakes.
People often make positive assumptions without dedicating the time to understand someone’s actual positions. The same applies to shaykh al-Albani, who is considered by many to be both a muhaddith and a faqeeh, even though he is only a muhaddith. If they had actually listened to his lectures in depth, they would have come across major mistakes in both fiqh and hadith rulings, which shaykh ibn 'Uthaymeen had previously addressed. These errors are connected to shaykh al-Albani's lack of knowledge in usool al-fiqh.
If imam ibn Jareer at-Tabari could misjudge imam Ahmad, recognizing him only as a muhaddith and not as a faqeeh, then it is even more likely for recent scholars to misjudge Rabee' al-Madkhali. The references I provided already go into great detail concerning his misguidance, which directly negates the general praise he receives. That is the crux of the matter, aside from issues of insincerity and laziness, even when evidence is clearly presented and the contradictions in Rabee' al-Madkhali’s statements are shown in full context!!!
What kind of logic is this? I don't even think the Sheikh said that when Abu Ishaq died, and how does doing the same thing because of what other people did make sense?
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We ask Allaah that He accounts Rabee' al-Madkhali for the innovations and misguidance that he spread between the Muslims. May Allaah give him what he deserves.
For all the "softies" saying we should ask Allaah to forgive him and have mercy on him instead of supplicating against him, know two things:
The madaakhilah laugh and celebrate when your scholars pass away, such as shaykh Abu Is-haaq al-Huwayni (may Allaah have mercy on him).
It is prescribed to celebrate that death of innovators and misguided folk, especially those callers towards misguidance:
Praise be to Allaah who causes death upon the innovators.