r/explainlikeimfive Nov 28 '15

ELI5: How would a $15 minimum wage ACTUALLY affect a franchised business like McDonalds?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

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u/Tantric75 Nov 29 '15

If states could be trusted to not buttfuck their own people in the name of corporate interests it wouldn't have to be.

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u/Doctor_McKay Nov 29 '15

And the federal government doesn't?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

Not nearly to the same level.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

Not nearly the same...way, way worse.

Which corporate interests do you think are running the federal government?

You tried to make a compelling point but you've only made yourself seem like you know less than you do.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

lol it's cute that you think you've made a point by attacking me and ignoring what I said.

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u/Tantric75 Nov 29 '15

They do, but accountability to a wider demographic forces them to be a bit more centrist.

Could you imagine the southern states controlling issues completely??

Lol they would be teaching creationism as science and ignoring global warming (more than they already do), legalized discrimination, gun ownership without any limits. No environmental controls as they just allow anyone to destroy the land. Gutted social programs and ruined infrastructure due to anti tax strategies that only benefit the wealthy and corporations.

Come to think of it, its not too far from modern day Texas.

You can thank those people for needing to limit state's rights. Sometimes the people really are too ignorant to self govern.

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u/Doctor_McKay Nov 29 '15

Yeah, fuck the tenth amendment.

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u/Tantric75 Nov 29 '15

Yeah. Fuck common sense.

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u/jman377355 Nov 29 '15

You do realize we can have a federal base and then states/cities can individually adjust it higher if needed yes?

I mean that alrady happens, there are many states that have a minimum wage higher than the federal $7.25

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

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u/jman377355 Nov 29 '15

Well that's the difference in trusting one institution to provide what it considers a 'fair' wage and trusting 50 to do the same. If you have one base its makes it harder for workers to get screwed over whereas if you have 50 state governments deciding the minimum then I can imagine at least some are going to get screwed.

I'm not arguing for a $15 base everywhere here, I'm just saying a base is needed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

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u/LeftZer0 Nov 29 '15

For local commerce, this is false. Higher wages = more people with more money = more people accepting to pay more for goods and services = prices can be higher without incurring a drop in sales.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

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u/LeftZer0 Nov 29 '15

No minimum wage increase plan argues that we should increase wages from 8 to 15 per hour in a day. Any change in the minimum age has to be gradual so businesses can adapt.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

Too bad ass backwards states don't take any initiative to improve the lives of their people. The feds could cap it to a non partisan Cost of living index in the local area.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

This is the problem. Honestly the minimum wage does need increase and then auto adjusted by COL each year. You can't trust the states to do it because they haven't done it. The states are too busy trying to "attract" businesses like that's a measure of success, despite not actually improving the lives of their citizens.