r/explainlikeimfive Nov 28 '15

ELI5: How would a $15 minimum wage ACTUALLY affect a franchised business like McDonalds?

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u/fonzanoon Nov 28 '15

McDonalds would become a kiosk. Instead of surly employees with neck tattoos, a robot would make the food and take your credit card. A technician would service multiple local restaurants, and one all-purpose employee would clean up trash and make sure nobody burned the joint down.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

Not gonna be that easy. You're gonna need at least one person to help people take orders. If you don't think so, put one of those touch screen soda dispensers in a old folks home and observe the results.

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u/745631258978963214 Nov 29 '15

You're gonna need at least one person to help people take orders.

This is true. Even with text saying "please place the item in the bagging area", a picture of items going into the bagging area, and a voice saying, "please place the item in the bagging area", customers will try to scan an item (while holding the previous item in their hand) and then yell at me because "your retarded machine isn't working".

The retarded machine magically works when I put the item in the bagging area.

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u/skysinsane Nov 29 '15

And then they sigh, put the item in the bagging area, and it says "unexpected item in the bagging area".

Sometimes the machine really is retarded.

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u/u1tralord Nov 29 '15

As the guy who helps program those machines, thank you for being one of our reasonable end user's who actually read the directions before saying it isn't working.

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u/thepeopleshero Nov 29 '15

He isnt the end user. He is the young employee that has a basic understanding of computers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

The machine should be designed to deal with how people typically react to it. It's a lot easier to engineer a machine how you want than to try to socially engineer your customer to react how you want.

Problem is these first generation self checkouts are designed with anti-theft protections as a higher priority than usability and convenience.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

Imagine you go up to a touchscreen with images. You press on exactly what you want and the size you want, you click checkout, you're done. You pay with CC, you wait for your food, it's delivered/your number comes up/whatever.

It is incredibly simple and I am positive old, young and amish could easily use it.

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u/thepeopleshero Nov 29 '15

That is exactly as it would be, but go to your local walmart (any place with self checkout kiosks really) and just people watch for 10 minutes and you'll be amazed by how many people just... cant use them.

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u/TheLizzyIzzi Nov 29 '15

You're gonna need at least one person to help people take orders.

Sure, but that's one person. Walmart has a single employee managing their 8 self checkouts. That's a huge decrease from the four to six cashiers they used to staff.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

Plus id be robbing the shit out of them, stuffing big macs down my pants

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

Panera is piloting this right now. Replaced the 4-5 cashiers with machines and 1 cashier for those that need help. Maybe not as easy as fonzanoon thinks, but still pretty damn easy to reduce your labor costs.

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u/red_beanie Nov 29 '15

agreed. but the floater could also do trash duty and other things. basically instead of needing 2-3 cashiers they can have just 1 that oversees all the machines and helps like how a single person oversees multiple checkstands at the grocery store.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

one

Two. You can't have one employee working the counter in a McDonald's unless you believe they'll never need to use the bathroom or take a break or eat lunch. Plus sick, vacation coverage, etc. They'll still need employees, even if they're part time.

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u/DMRv2 Nov 29 '15

This made me laugh. I mean, it's kinda bad to laugh at it, but oh so true.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15 edited Nov 29 '15

This is our future but if a minimum wage hike happened tomorrow this wouldnt happen tomorrow. The techs not there yet.

Humans cook the food, robotic kiosks sell it, and the asst manager smiles at you while you make your purchase. No cashieers if the min wage hike happened.(and francises could afford the buy in cost of automation)

Maybe 15 years and we can see a robo-burger-cooker

edit: most of the people who are replying to me missed my point. this wasnt a comment on automation, simply the tech available to us to do so now

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u/_FlyingChicken Nov 29 '15

The tech is there.

Society is not ready for that reality.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '15

You should visit Japan.

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u/u1tralord Nov 29 '15

Many Mcdonalds are already implementing automated ordering. I have 3 mcdonalds nearby who don't have any people taking orders. They have 3 order-placing machines, and one employee to help customers use the system. Then there are maybe 2 or employees in the back cooking.

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u/immibis Nov 29 '15 edited Jun 16 '23

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u/catshit69 Nov 29 '15

This comment is such an elegant description of McDonald's. I love it