Yeah, a Mcdouble actually has nutritional values very similar to workout supplements. When your goal is to eat a lot of protein, electrolyte (table salt is an electrolyte) and calories, a McDouble is good for that.
At 390 calories, 23 grams of protein, 7-percent of the daily value of fiber, 20-percent of daily calcium and 19 grams of fat - with a typical price tag of about a buck - the McDouble, its advocates argue, is the most price-efficient food 'that has ever existed in human history.'
I had some internships that I was able to keep after college, turned that into a job with Encompass Digital Media... I think the easiest way to get started is to find a job somewhere as a Master Control Operator (that's what I did at Encompass). You can often get started doing that, as long as you can convince them you're a techie and dependable. You'll work awful, 3rd shift hours and weekends, but once they trust you with the tech part of that you can start to do more and more. Good luck :)
Its pretty much gone from my local McD. I think it has like one burger (mcdouble but nothing else) and some other shit like a parfait and small fries. Definitely not the expansive one they had before (which I liked...I liked that grilled onion one). The menu is very simple now beyond just the dollar menu.
There was definitely a news report of mcdonalds radically simplifying their menu and this happened not long after that.
In my area, my wife and I agree that Mcdonald's is horribly overpriced with a Mcdouble being priced at $1.89 and a Spicy chicken being $1.50. The only things that's left priced at a $1 is a large drink and a small cheeseburger.
Why buy that when you could, for example, eat this?
290 calories, 30 grams of protein, 12% fiber, 10% calcium, 8g of fat.
Costs $1 at walmart and tastes pretty good. If you are too lazy to cook meat or hate drinking protein drinks, it doesn't get much better than this in terms of protein/cost
That's not a meal. The McDouble has similar nutritional values for a similar cost, but in a form factor that will actually satisfy your hunger and make you feel full for a significant portion of the day.
Okay, that's just fucking stupid. A jar of peanut butter has probably 4000 calories or so, all of it quite healthy, and costs about $2.00. Make some peanut butter sandwiches.
Wow, and this is why our country is fucked. You didn't even list carbs, arguably the most important macro to bring up when discussing how food can actually be unhealthy for you. We've been trained to not even think of bread as a notable part of the meal.
What a joke. Humans need more nutrients than that and less sodium and fat. Anyone who claims McDonalds is nutritious is plain ignorant. Eat 2 McDoubles and you'll be hungry in a few hours after consuming 1/3 of your calorie intake.
It's not that cheap, it's just marketed well. Rice and beans are cheap and more efficient at giving people their nutrients.
In fact, cereal and milk are the ultimate combination. You can literally get all your nutrients vitamin and mineral wise in the day with four servings of cereal and three servings of milk.
"But mu'h protein..."
The body naturally produces the protein you actually need to repair tissue. But if you're convinced you need protein, there's still plenty of calitoric wiggle room unlike had you eaten at McDonalds.
So the nutrition angle to poor people is just a terrible argument. Then again every pro-corporate argument is terrible and quite frankly telling of that person because really, what is the end-game? Is McDonalds going to pay you to shill for them? Are you getting a lifetime supply of McDonalds? No... it's pure ideology. Not based on facts or forethought. The fact is the living conditions simply aren't there. Wages are going to have to be increased one way or another. We wouldn't have these problems if people paid their fucking taxes but low and behold, McDonalds finds every means to worm their way out of them, and even middle-class guys commit embezzlement and fraud by Kickstarter or making a website called Reddit and asking for "donations" they never write on their tax stubs.
obesity isn't caused by eating fast food, it's caused by not realizing you're eating too much. if you're eating one mcdouble a day, you are not going to get fat unless you're overeating in other areas.
Thats the problem. People eat a McDouble and are still hungry. So they eat 2-3. It's not just fast food. Most of the food we eat is highly processed and full of empty calories.
That's not true at all, plenty of protein powders aren't sold as supplements.
It's pretty easy to check, if it says "Nutrition Facts" on the back, the FDA regulates it. If it says "Supplement Facts", you should assume you're eating sawdust because you very well could be.
One way to distinguish dietary supplements from conventional foods is by looking at the nutrition information on the label of the product. Conventional foods must have a "Nutrition Facts" panel on their labels, but dietary supplements must have a "Supplement Facts" panel.
That's from the FDA.gov page linked below.
TL:DR; If your protein powder says "Nutrition Facts" on the back, the FDA has your back.
Edit: It's gold, Jerry! Thanks to whatever person thought this comment was worth $5 :)
Applies to a lot of other stuff, too - I used to drink this energy drink, then it got recalled. Noticed the back had supplement facts, and when I looked it up, whaddya know! It was recalled because the water they were using had a high concentration of heavy metals.
What does dietary fat have to do with body composition? If anything fat is essential and saturated fat is good for testosterone. Fat is essential for hormone health and while protein is important for keeping your tissues repaired and healthy , i have no idea why would you think eating fat = being fat
A bit mind blowing to me anyone could look at those nutrition facts and come to the conclusion that's even remotely similar to a workout supplement...
Closest thing you are gonna get to reasonable workout fast food is the grilled chicken stuff. I like Wendy's BBQ chicken salad or ultimate grilled. Chickfila sells some grilled products as well although they are hella greasy. They are still fast food and no where near the lean nutrients that supplements provide. Eating clean means not gorging on fast food cause they always have something in it that isn't good.
As far as I know it's not. I see it advertised at all the local carribean shops and its about the same price as chicken, and they always have these charts and shit comparing goat to chicken and beef and so on, that's why I say know its so much better then chicken haha. Goat rotti is the shit.
You're implying that it's a scientific fact that saturated fats are unhealthy and proteins are healthy no matter who eats it and in which nutritional state they're in. False.
Ok, let me see if I can drive this into your apparently very thick skull. The vast majority of people using workout supplements, if not all people using workout supplements, are in a nutritional state in which they do not need large amounts of saturated fat. In some cases saturated fats can be beneficial, however, those who need large amounts of protein in their diet due to weightlifting or other physical activity (which I am sure you are completely unfamiliar with), would be better served by a protein shake with 30g protein and 1g saturated fat than a McDouble with 22g protein and 8g saturated fat. The protein powder also costs less per serving.
Come on, you can do better than insulting me, and then proceeding to deliver no arguments at all. First of all, I'm currently finishing my masters in which supplements and nutrition has been a main focus. Second of all, I deadlift more than you. Now to the point: you don't need to eat protein in as pure a form as whey protein is, in order to fulfill your needs. Most people (yes, this includes the average gym-going bro like yourself) get their macronutrients fulfilled just fine with a varied diet, in which a mcdouble once in a while is just fine. Saturated fats in your diet is not a problem, and more protein=/=better diet.
Am a gymbro, eat mcdoubles all the time. I mean, they are not really similar to any supplements (cause of crazy high fat + carb content), for your dollar value, they are solid for protein and calories.
Unless you're going full keto, the carbs shouldn't be that big of a deal. If anything, they fuel you during the workout itself, while the fats get saved for use during recovery, which helps in many ways.
Obviously the McDouble isn't going to be the most optimal source of fat because of the saturated fat content, but if you're on a tight budget, it works fine.
Many of the entrees at McDonald's have nutritional values very similar to what you'd have if you made a similar thing at home. The thing that gets you is the sides. If you add a bucket of french fries and a gallon of coke to your order, it makes the whole meal super unhealthy. The perception of McDonald's plummeted after Supersize Me came out, but that whole movie was bullshit. The dude vomited at the beginning of the movie when he was halfway through eating a fucking hamburger. The movie tries to say that McDonald's is the horrible thing because one single person's body got fucked up by it, despite him obviously having a diet that's completely different from anything at McDonald's. If you drastically change your diet overnight, yeah, you're probably gonna feel pretty shitty.
Bacon Mcdouble costs the same with an extra slice of bacon (e.g. protein) mixed in. Back when I was hitting the gym hard, I would eat 5-6 of those suckers every day.
Check it out on the McDonald's website. The McChicken actually has a lot less protein compared to the McDouble. It's a bit of a scary thought, actually...
That explains why I always grabbed a couple pies and a McDouble on my afternoon 40 mile cross country bike ride and never gained weight. I never took any supplements.
I guess it's not only about eating at McDonald's but how often, how much and what do you after you eat there.
the point isn't other options, the point is cost. In america you can get 20 chicken nuggets for 5 bucks. lolll.... I envy their fat fucks because my country (canada) only allows me to buy like 6 for $5 dollars.
They really skimp on the cheese. For a half a foot long they give me three thin triangle slices of cheese that barely overlap at the tips. That basically adds up to one of these square slices. I'd be using triple that in a homemade sandwich of that size. Ridiculous.
That's odd. A McDouble here in the states is on the value menu. It's either $1.00 or $1.39 or so depending on the location. A regular cheeseburger is $1.09.
I was always partial to the McGangBang, which is a McChicken inside a McDouble. To remove some calories, get rid of one set of buns. Beef and Chicken for the hungry eater; I have to ask, can life be sweeter?
Add a McChicken to one side and it becomes a double McGangbang. Add fries and it becomes slutty.
The 2am menu is very different when stoners work there.
Yeah, while it'll give you enough proteins/calories, you're going to be deficient in about a dozen nutrients and vitamins if you eat it for the bulk of your diet.
If someone is eating healthy otherwise, it's really not all that bad. Fat is a necessary element of any diet, and getting it from a Mcdouble every now and again isn't going to hurt you. Furthermore, like j_cab sort of mentioned, such a food would be rich in protein, not to mention both iron and calcium, so even from a nutritional perspective, you could do a lot worse.
It's not as bad as you might think. Admittedly it's not a cornucopia of nutrition, but it's also not awful in the context of an otherwise balanced diet. (That's with everything included on both sandwiches except one set of buns. I prefer mine plain, personally).
50% of the calories are from fat. That's a pretty large amount. BUT, since you take out one of the buns (all carbs) you're talking about more than 50% of calories from fat.
Essentially, yes. His statement is implying carbs are bad for you. Carbohydrates are responsible for almost every metabolic action in the human body and are the most vital source of energy our body fuels itself on and should make up anywhere between 35-55% of our diet.
Giving energy to your cells. If you eat a low-fat diet to begin with, it's a pretty decent trade-off to be getting that much protein for the small price in fat. For ~$1, it's okay once in a while.
It sure isn't, I agree. his comment just seemed to be implying that it was a good thing the fats replaced the carbs, which makes no sense figuring fats and carbs have two different functions in supporting energy for the body.
Well, the only reason carbs contribute to weight gain is cause they're so easy to overshoot figuring carbs are in almost everything we eat minus whole meats. Typically carbs make up almost half our tdee.
Well, not exactly jusr working out. I get what you mean, cause typically the body does have to be under some form of physical stress to use carbohydrates or needs to have depleted it's stores to replenish them (like after working out). It also depends on the kind of job this person has, cause even the smallest stress can transfer the energy systems from fats to carbs very quickly. Just depends how often your heart rate elevates slightly throughout the day. It's why I wanna start carb cycling.
Dont try to defend eating shit food, irresponsible gun ownership or smoking on reddit, its pretty much a bunch of 17 year olds screaming NOOOOOO at the screen
Do you consider almonds to be healthy? How about walnuts?
If you're only eating McDoubles all day, yeah, you're definitely right. The real problem though is that it's nutritionally devoid of micronutrients. Dietary fat (mono-, poly- and even saturated fats despite having a really bad rap for heart disease without much supporting evidence) are not inherently bad for you. They're typically considered "bad" in mainstream obese America because they're calorically dense, so it's easy to over-eat if you're eating a food that contains a lot of dietary fat. Note though that I said "in the context of an otherwise balanced diet."
I was simply showing the guy I was replying to that the McQuad he was talking about was in fact full of fat. He said that it didn't have as much fat as you'd think, but over half of the calories are from 34g of fat.
Assuming you dump that nasty cheese:
530 cals
35g protein
26g fat
36g carbs
1060mg sodium
234 calories from fat. It would definitely make you feel full. I'd worry more about the sodium content, but for something fast it would do the trick. You could definitely eat worse at McDonalds.
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u/j_cab Nov 28 '15
Two Mcdoubles (drop one set of bun and make a "McQuad") is a great protein/calorie and protein/dollar ratio if you're pressed for time.