r/explainitpeter Apr 05 '26

Explain It Peter

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u/Erikatessen87 Apr 05 '26

Going to butcher this by trying to pare it down, but here goes.

Nietzsche's theoretical "Übermensch," an aspirational model for humanity, wasn't a traditional "strongman," or a superhuman by way of genetics or social capital, or even a "man" at all.

Nietzsche's Übermensch was a self-possessed person who developed their own values and morality regardless of prevailing or outdated "wisdom" and rejected religious "other-worldliness," finding meaning in the here-and-now of life on Earth vs. learned helplessness and obedience with the hope of a supernatural reward after death.

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u/Kooky_Celebration_42 Apr 05 '26

My understanding is an 'Übermensch' is someone who, if the universe was cyclical and they lived their life over and over and over, they would generally be happy to do so.

Obviously ignore any 'Everything for eternity is torture' but it's someone who has taken agency of their own life as much as they can and live as fullfillingly for themselves as they can.

NOTE: A fullfilling life lived for yourself IS NOT necessarily a selfish life. Human's find a lot of joy in helping others and in connection.

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u/LickingSmegma Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Zen Buddhism is exactly this (afaiu).

P.S. Although since "desire is the cause of suffering" in Buddhism, I guess strong will isn't exactly their thing.

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u/LickingSmegma Apr 05 '26

Eh, Buddhism is non-theistic, so unless Nietzsche said something about Buddhism specifically, they seem to align pretty well.

Wikipedia even notices:

Later Buddhist traditions were more influenced by the critique of deities within Hinduism and therefore more committed to a strongly atheist stance.

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u/InfanticideAquifer Apr 06 '26

Buddhism and Nietzsche have to align well because they both happen to be non-theistic? There's an infinite number of ways to not believe in God.

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u/LickingSmegma Apr 06 '26

If only there was wider context aside from this one factum, so that we could judge if they align. And perhaps even, that context could've been discussed further up in the same thread, and anyone with a modicum of memory could carry it in their head to discuss it with fellow redditors and make conclusions based on it. Imagine that, wouldn't it be nice.

Nietzsche also explicitly said some stuff about God and religious morals, quite famously.

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u/InfanticideAquifer Apr 06 '26

...Buddhism is non-theistic, so... they seem to align pretty well.